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funny how the banks who caused this problem were given the "bail-out" money with no strings attached and no oversight over how they used it!

here in america, these bankers have paid themselves multimillion dollar bonuses and i'm unaware of tangible assets reaching any troubled "consumers" yet.....

I absolutely don't know who's behind Obama, Gary.
Some echo arrived up to here talks about a very rich electoral campaign. That's it.

I'm not going to put him on trial here and NOW.
It's very likely they have built a dream on purpose and gave it to the masses. Nevertheless this dream joins a lot of people and I feel it like a good thing: me and the most of the people that has given him his vote like to believe in this kind of dreams.
(Even MLK had a dream...).

How long before we see Obama stopping in on Iraq or Afghanistan wearing designer army camo gear?

whose dreams do you believe in?

yours are different than his, i can assure you, but no, you don't need to put him on trial. nothing i have said is my opinion, it's just common info available to anyone who wants to see who the man is and not who they wish he was.

his dreams DEFINITELY are not anything like MLK's. HE HAS NEVER BEEN A MEMBER OF THE UNDERCLASS. (caps for emphasis, not shouting, although i do speak loudly sometimes.... )

if you expect the USA to be less aggressive, i wouldn't count on it. Obama has spoken in favor of aggression against Iran and Russia. he has hired a well known hawk to be his chief of staff. if he's for CHANGE, why be under old-guard tutelage from Z. Brezinsky(the Al-Caeda founder. i posted a photo of Z.B. and Osama Bin Laden enjoying eachothers company some time ago.) and Rahm Emanuel(well known Hawk from the Clinton Administration)? that's the same-as-usual by definition!

I'm not a member of the underclass too, but I like dreams.
I don't expect anything. Just I was believing that rather few people of this kind remained around.
Just anyway now I feel myself somehow less alone...or something like this

Sorry for the slight tangent again, but will the world still have to put up with seeing as much of the face & verbal bile of Condi next year?

we shall see....

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Shroomz~> wrote:tangent

Another one.

It's always struck me just how many leading politicians and their wives are lawyers. Clinton & spouse. Blair & spouse. Obama & spouse.

ns

So?

Condi Rice will be a liason at the Moscow Embassy.
On her first visit to Russia, Putin kept her waiting, so she decided to perform some Chopin on the 9 foot Steinway, and when Putin finally showed up, she made him wait till she was finished, then apologised in his own language. BTW she's an incredibly talented Pianist. Needless to say he was so impressed by her that they still have a steamy romance, and practice Judo together before some good old hard core sex.
When Sarah Palin found out the election was pretty much over she became furious, as she was going to prance around the Globe bangin' World Leaders.
To show them what they are missing she decided to do a porn video for Hustler Magazine and name it " Nailin' Palin".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/0 ... 31581.html

NO, WE CAN'T



Now that I’m the president

There’s one thing that I can’t stand:

The assumption that all blacks

Naturally have good sex!



Twenty-seven times a day!

This assumption ain’t okay.

That we’re downside very strong

And hilariously long



Never was and is not true:

That proves German CDU…

(They just aren’t awesome fuckers.

Most of them are only suckers.)

[titanic]

Slightly OT lol. I just took a photo of this frog in the pond in my backyard.

garyb wrote:whose dreams do you believe in?

Part of my dreams is the defeat of whose found their wealth on the uneasiness of others, as a brazen philosophy of life, or pretending not to see.

I'm aware of my nature, my diet is partly carnivourous; my dream is not utopy though.
I'm also aware the evolution carried me quiet far from the mere animal stage. And I'm absolutely sure there's great space for improvements.
I eat only just the meat I need, and I really wish the animals I eat could be breed in FULLY ethics respect. The concept may be tranfered to a huge number of fields...
There's a phrase attributed to Gandhi saying something like: the world has enough resources to satisfy everyone; it hasn't enough to satisfy the avidity of everyone

I know this ain't exactly the electoral program of Obama. Though I can feel like the most of the people voting him have similar ideas and that candidate represented anyway this kind of ideas.


Why didn't you pointed out your information at primary election time?
Who might be a good candidate in your opinion?

i did point it out then...

Cynthia McKinney, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and Chuck Baldwin all would have been better choices more in line with the kind of thinking you mention. i don't agree with any of those candidates 100%, but at least they aren't trying to destroy the system from the inside. Obama is an elitist, a blue blood. his wealth is founded on the unease of others. oh well, maybe he'll have a pang of conscience, we'll have to wait and see...

garyb wrote:i did point it out then...

Cynthia McKinney, Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich and Chuck Baldwin all would have been better choices more in line with the kind of thinking you mention. i don't agree with any of those candidates 100%, but at least they aren't trying to destroy the system from the inside. Obama is an elitist, a blue blood. his wealth is founded on the unease of others. oh well, maybe he'll have a pang of conscience, we'll have to wait and see...

Or all 4 of these alternative candidates working together in one more powerful so-called 3rd party that would be focused on a more true 'new USA'. My preference would've been a Paul/Baldwin ticket with a sprinkling of McKinney/Kucinich for the so-called 'liberal' position.

Obomba is VERY dangerous if you look at who surrounds and supports him, and because he comes off as so 'cool' and 'collected' - it's still all words - and very hypnotic. So we'll see what his actions reveal.

In the meantime we have to make it through the next two months of Boosh. Hope it all doesn't just collapse out from underneath us. The economy is HIGHLY manipulated right now.

Greg

Fantastic, genial:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/207897

I understand that the conservatives are angry. Now you know us liberals have felt for so many years. It's time to move ahead in the name of progress, prosperity and I hope a little more peace in the world and a cleaner environment.

braincell wrote:I understand that the conservatives are angry. Now you know us liberals have felt for so many years. It's time to move ahead in the name of progress, prosperity and I hope a little more peace in the world and a cleaner environment.

I'm not a conservative or liberal. I'm not deceived by these lables.

Peace yes. Environment yes (as long as they don't tax us for breathing too much CO2). Progress OK, but not at the expense of other innocent people. Prosperity yes, but not on the shoulders of the enslaved.

The anger so-called liberals feel at the so-called conservatives will reappear soon enough when the dust settles on just who/what Obomba and his soon-to-be-infamous cabinet of merry pranksters.

Greg

braincell wrote:I understand that the conservatives are angry. Now you know us liberals have felt for so many years. It's time to move ahead in the name of progress, prosperity and I hope a little more peace in the world and a cleaner environment.

i knew someone would make this comment.

if you noticed, i included McKinney and Kucinich as acceptable alternatives. some of us are not deluded by a false left/right paradyme. Obama is as much a neocon as Bushy is and has the same backers.

i wouldn't mind the peace and prosperity with a nice environment, though....