Obama In Berlin

[Shroomz~>]

200,000 people see O-bomb-a speak in Berlin yesterday to hear him speak of 'hope' and 'promise', but where's the substance?

In your food & water !!!

[garyb]

they're both criminals and members of the Council on Foriegn Relations, part of Chatham house and agents of Cecil Rhode's group which has as a sole purpose, British Royal soveriegnty over the whole world. as the group's founders the Rockefellors state(in David's autobiography), the purpose is the dissolution of the United States of America and the establishment of world corporate government.

politicians always say nice things.

ask Obama what he intends to do with the "Civilian National Security force" as well trained and funded as the US military that he called for on July 3rd......

Huh? British royal sovereignty? those inbred upperclass twits couldn't organize a tea party let alone a massive worldwide conspiracy.

I agree that americans getting to choose between 2 previously selected corporate lackeys, is not really democracy.
its more like
you get to choose. horse S**t or bull S**t, but you still have to eat s**t. there is no "no s**t please i would prefer pie" option.

read the "Anglo-American Establishment" by Carroll Quigley, professor at Georgetown, Princeton and Harvard, then you'll have some history to scoff at. then you'll know why Canada is part of the "commonwealth"(the royal common wealth), and why queenie's picture is on de money. the decision was made over 100 years ago, to allow "home rule" ala rome, in order to maintain and complete the empire. ignorance is bliss, though, right?

.....and yes, i'll take my pie without any sh*t, or i will happily do without. there are real candidates, if only people were allowed to see and vote for them....

[Shroomz~>]

There's no doubt that the Queen of England is heavily involved Gary, but claiming it's 'all' about her & her royals is contrary to what I've read. I think the bloodlines go back further than British royalty do they not? Are you saying the Queen owns the Rocker's, Roth's & all their like minded fascist pals?

[siriusbliss]

There's no doubt that the Queen of England is heavily involved Gary, but claiming it's 'all' about her & her royals is contrary to what I've read. I think the bloodlines go back further than British royalty do they not? Are you saying the Queen owns the Rocker's, Roth's & all their like minded fascist pals?

'bosom buddies' in more way than one. Same bloodline.
The Queen is the land-owner (along with the Vatican amongst others), while the Roths and Rocks are the bankers and social engineers.

Greg

[Shroomz~>]

Well, I would never defend the actions of the Queen of england or her family, never mind their position in our society, but my point was really that it can't possibly be all about them. I doubt that she sits at the very top of the pyramid. Surely not? Ok, at the top of 'a' pyramid, but surely not 'the' worldwide pyramid. If so, it must be amongst a group outside her own family & she probably doesn't have any more than a vote or a say in matters important to their governing group.

OT - I was just commenting to one of my neighbours on Monday that it was maybe odd that there weren't any CCTV cameras in the streets of our area. 2 days later they went up.. in numbers. Who's listening? Obviously it was inevitable, but sometimes it seems like I'm taking part in some sort of Truman show.

[garyb]

you are in a Truman show. imagine if you try and film all your "officials".....

it's not about the queen herself so much, although you'd be amazed at what she controls. the other royals play their parts and roles and can be as, or more important depending on what aspect you want to discuss. beatrice of netherlands is probably more active than elizabeth of england. the former is more hands-on, and the latter handles more of the ceremonial work. the whore of babylon is not the capstone, but is in alliance with the beast who serves the bright master who sees all at the top of the pyramid.

the british throne is near the top. the rothschilds are a step down, always trying to push even. remember, this is a systematic thing. nobles who hate and fight each other are likely to work to preserve the system together(in true psychopathic fashion). culture coming from same root as cultivate, always flows from the top down...

if you've read true scholarly works about these things and you think they disagree, i'd suggest a reread without the teacher's commentary. Carroll Quigley writes about these things as though the works are great and "christian"(in the most benevolent way). he makes it as though these people were rebels trying to truly "civil-ize" humanity, trying to bring humans to a world of peace and love. indeed, the worst plans of the leaders are always announced as a good, truly helpful thing. if those things you have read still disagree, well, check out reality a little closer and make up your own mind, i guess...just remember picture of the motto that i posted of the cover of the book "morals and dogma" by albert pike, ORDO AB CHAO....

[Shroomz~>]

Those are the words of Bush, not Pike.

I do agree with most of your positions on these subjects Gary. How could I not? When you get charged for power when you're not even using the bloody stuff, you gotta know something is seriously wrong with our society & that we're all being scammed to the hilt.

So, who IS at the top anyway? (just curious, since I still haven't figured that out other than the notion that it's not an individual).

[garyb]

why does there need to be someone specific? shared interest between psychopaths is enough...


inside "Morals and Dogma" Pike proclaims the glories of Lucifer...

[garyb]

also Shroomz, it's correct to say that those inbred nutcases aren't capable of pulling all this off. that's why they get us to do it all. who put up those cameras in your neighborhood and who are those cameras protecting?

[siriusbliss]

So, who IS at the top anyway? (just curious, since I still haven't figured that out other than the notion that it's not an individual).

There are in my estimation about 13 families running the planet.
...and they're all inter-related in some way.

Greg

[Shroomz~>]

No offence guys, but we all live in a society where anyone who's seen as a serious threat to the 'establishment' can be expected to be disposed of with ease. Look at some of the well-known guys who are exposing the masses to the sort of information you're talking about here & ask yourself - why are they being allowed to continue doing so.. This is what really bothers me about these subjects. Why would they allow all that 'bad' PR unless they actually wanted it to not only exist, but flourish! Why would some of those people who were & are deeply involved all-of-a-sudden openly discuss the so-called 'agenda'? Sorry, but personally I think it's all a big bluff. They want us to fear them. Why are they putting up CCTV cameras? Surveillance or fear installation? Both? Is it maybe as Gary almost suggested - Them who fear the masses? They probably should.

[siriusbliss]

There's no reason to fear what you know.
Whether or not we buy into it or not doesn't matter because 'they' do believe in what they're doing.
Everything else is a ruse.

Greg

[garyb]

human nature is the most studied of all "natures" in the world. what they require is cooperation, a basic component of a healthy human being's behavior. to understand how their minds work, study the psychopath.

they DO care about info coming out, if it makes trouble for them, otherwise, they require a certain amount of info to be out there for a few reasons. first, the true believers, those who blindly love and obey the powerful need info and intsruction. as i said, they get us to do almost all of the work. secondly, their religion requires a sacrificial victim to be informed of the nature and purpose of the sacrifice. when the victim does not refuse or resist, power is gained from the ceremony. a victim who refuses is a murder victim and power is not gained. third, many of these guys are arrogant and braggarts(in a twisted way), they can't help it, they love sticking it in our faces in the way a serial killer often taunts the police and public with newspaper ads or signature tortures. a further reason to let info out is for the purpose of "predictive programming". human's are very adaptable. through repition, the unthinkable becomes normal. this effectively ends oposition to things that people ought to refuse(because they feel that an event or sequence of events is unavoidable or "natural" since the idea is familiar. an example is the idea that these guys have "always been in charge and always will be" or that experiments with cross species gene splicing is an unavoidable consequence of technology or that corporations owning the earth is unavoidable...).

the people exposing this stuff are OFTEN intimidated and even snuffed. recently, a young man who got a job at the bohemian grove and then took picures and gave them to alex jones who put them in a film(order of death) was put into a penitentiary for a twenty year sentence related to stealing grove images. a vanity fair editor was caught infiltrating the grove this year and was arrested and is now facing federal charges. william cooper was driven crazy and then gunned down outside his house by fbi agents. wiretaps and death threats are common.