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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:49 am
by Kymeia
Wow - this is worth it for the modular insert feature alone. I take it this means you can load a full Modular synth patch complete with presets and play (or effect in an effects slot)? You don't have to rebuild it in the shell do you like with the other attempts at this concept?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:56 am
by wolf
musurgio wrote:So this could identify the actual latency of each plugin on after the other an report actual latency ?
well .. all this were just theoretical thoughts. The realisation is another thing and might be impossible.
Kymeia wrote:I take it this means you can load a full Modular synth patch complete with presets and play (or effect in an effects slot)?
Only play, not load ...
You don't have to rebuild it in the shell do you like with the other attempts at this concept?
Unfortunately you need to do this with the current incarnation.
I have a solution in mind, but it needs complicated user interaction in the explorer/finder.
Beside I don't know if it works I want to avoid such kind of interactions because the user is the main problem (own experience!) when using a computer

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:30 am
by dehuszar
I too would love a 32 channel version. That said, another approach would be to see if there's a way to load 2 16 channel devices and have their AUX busses route to both devices. Perhaps you can create a unifier device so that you can stack multiple devices and have them output to one stereo pair (or some form of merged outputs from the control room section) with their AUX's usable on all channels across devices.
The reason why I think that might be a better solution (if possible) is that we're limited to 16 channels per midi device/module, so just adding more channels would limit the amount of assignable controls. I don't know if the SDK allows you to create single devices which can be controlled by multiple midi modules (not just an multi-device omni option, a little bit of specificity might be nice), but knowing that might better illustrate our options.
But that would satisfy everyone's wishes.... more channels, more aux's, fewer licenses to purchase and manage. Good times for all.
My $.02
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:19 am
by dawman
Here's a 32 channel hardware sequencer that Wolf's 32 would work with.
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:44 am
by garyb
dehuszar wrote:The reason why I think that might be a better solution (if possible) is that we're limited to 16 channels per midi device/module, so just adding more channels would limit the amount of assignable controls. I don't know if the SDK allows you to create single devices which can be controlled by multiple midi modules (not just an multi-device omni option, a little bit of specificity might be nice), but knowing that might better illustrate our options.
i don't think this is an issue with mackie control protocol.....
corrections?
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:27 am
by wolf
garyb wrote:corrections?
nope, just additions
Beside other advantages the MC protocol simply assures an easy setup.
But even without you can still utilize bank switches (to ie. control 32 volume sliders with 8 hardware sliders) and use any controler with any midi channel (results in far over 2064 different controlers, which should be sufficient).
dehuszar wrote:That said, another approach would be to see if there's a way to load 2 16 channel devices and have their AUX busses route to both devices.
This still would need a basic redesign of the mixer, as you want to control the aux send of each channel, not of the already mixed aux busses.
Here's a 32 channel hardware sequencer that Wolf's 32 would work with.
Shure, it does .. I'm just trying to imagine step sequencing a mixer

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:46 am
by Shroomz~>
Step sequencing a mixer? Now you're talkin' !!!
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:49 am
by Shroomz~>
erm... but that's a lot of shift registers Wolf

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:27 am
by wolf
There's now v1.1 available with a few bugfixes and separate aux/bus outputs to i.e. route them back into the mixer.
The 32ChannelMixer might be available next week.
And here a little and completely non-pro video about the mixer in action:
low quality
higher quality
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:02 am
by krizrox
Yeah I have to say I would add my voice to the chorus for a new 48 channel mixer. I'm just amazed to see anything along these lines after so many stagnant years of compressors and synths that I don't need.
Those colors though...

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:06 am
by wolf
48 channels ? you guys are killing me ..
What's wrong with the colors ?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:06 pm
by krizrox
Well, the reason I mention 48 is in reference to CW's 48 channel mixer which I've been using for a couple of years now. There's nothing wrong with it per se other than a few annoyances that will probably never be fixed. I'm just stoked to see someone actually tackle something new - I don't care how many channels it eventually ends up with. I say thanks to you for that.
Come on -
the colors? You got every color of the rainbow in your promo shot. It made my eyeballs freak out

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:07 pm
by dawman
Actually Brotha' Man Wolf,
I need 128 channels, how quick could you get that one up and running for me?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:43 pm
by wolf
Come on - the colors? You got every color of the rainbow in your promo shot. It made my eyeballs freak out
So the promo shot did its job .. good to know .. and I just wanted it to be prepared for the next 70ies revival
Actually Brotha' Man Wolf, I need 128 channels ..
Right in the moment this message is send, I'll dissolve into nothing with a silent "pfft" .. maybe I'll return as Marvin somewhen.
Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:21 pm
by dawman
Great video Wolf,
I love seeing Scope with good old gear like the PC era Logic hardware surface.
You just had to show the motorised faders didn't 'cha?