creamware releases scope 5.0

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:22 am

The only difference that I can see between 4.0 and 4.5 is the SBC and Pro12 devices and their DSP files (three dsp files I think).

/dave

edit - more like 38 dsp files

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Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:24 am

Shayne, it looks like there are *some* changes, will report back when we know exactly what, but at the moment the main addition we found was on instalation where there was a new XTC I/O Enabler page just before the finish/start Scope option at the end... Will check timestamps etc.

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:57 am

There are a lot of different *.dsp files, much more than three, so I'm not going to waste my time detailling this. Do it by yourself.

Useful enough?...

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:09 am

I made a list of new DSP files for anyone who cares

....

j841.dsp 11/11/2005
j842.dsp 11/11/2005
j84a.dsp 11/11/2005
j84b.dsp 11/11/2005
j881.dsp 11/11/2005
j882.dsp 11/11/2005
j88a.dsp 11/11/2005
j88b.dsp 11/11/2005
mccore.dsp 21/09/2005
MultiSegCtrlInterpPro1.dsp 21/11/2005
PRO1EG2.dsp 21/02/2005
PRO1LFO3.dsp 21/02/2005
PRO1OSC2.dsp 21/02/2005
Pro5EG1.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5FB1.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5LFO1.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5ModMatrix.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5ModMatrixM.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5oscR1.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5PMControlOSCA.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5PMControlOSCB.dsp 21/11/2005
Pro5PWControlOSC.dsp 21/11/2005
ProOneGPMod.dsp 21/11/2005
ProOneModMatrix.dsp 21/02/2005
ProOnePCtrl.dsp 21/02/2005
ProOnePWMix.dsp 21/02/2005
tb41.dsp 21/11/05
tb42.dsp 21/11/05
tb4a.dsp 21/11/05
tb4b.dsp 21/11/05
tb81.dsp 21/11/05
tb82.dsp 21/11/05
tb8a.dsp 21/11/05
tb8b.dsp 21/11/05

... there may be more as I went thru quickly ...

Grok · Post by **Grok** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 10:18 am

How nice are you, Shroomz !...

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:18 am

My current count - 38 new DSP, some are updates.

/dave

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:41 pm

whatever

symbiote · Post by **symbiote** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:45 am

It's not exactly the same software, no. The differences I've noticed for the moment are very minor:

- the ScreeSets bar changed color (orange in 4.0, yellow in 4.5);

- in 4.0 if you saved a project under a new name, the project title in the live bar would change to that new name, while in 4.5 it stays at whatever you set it to initially and doesn't change if you save the project under a new name;

- the "about" window says "4.5", I guess the splash screen also.

So that's at least one bugfix, altho it's very small. I kinda liked that bug/feature tho, and I kinda liked the orange bar too. But after putting all my different plush toys to a vote, we collectively decided to keep 4.5.

What bugs me a bit (well, this is a figure of style, it doesn't really bug me

) is that people are quick to factor in devices as part of the software when talking about glitches/bugs, but quick to exclude them when considering version numbers.

If you count in the change in device, this IS a fairly big update, even if it's not really the one you want and/or expect.

Also, as far as I know, there's no set absolute and legal standard for versioning software. I'm sure there's plenty of drafts, but nothing a software maker absolutely must follow should you buy his products (maybe go and read that EULA/licence again

.)

So it's the software maker's, and ONLY the software maker's decision to make.

And frankly, I doubt the reaction would have been different if they had called it 4.1 or 4.01.

The culprit throughout all this isn't bundled devices, version numbers, nomenclature, creamware or wdm drivers or alien invaders, no (altho...), it's the same culprit as usual: Your (yes, you there!) expectations!

I got the full S&S upgrade with my PowerPulsar, and I must say I feel very guilty for getting so much mindblowing devices for so little money. Each of the synths included are worth easily, easily 200 euros each, so you really shouldn't feel bad for paying whatever you have for them. At that level of quality, having them is the important part, not how much you paid. After hearing them, I am strongly considering getting the ASB boxes and will happily shell out 700-800 euros/usd to get a hardware duplicate of something I already have. As much as I love my Virus Indigo, this stuff is just as good, and even at 200 euros each they are a steal.

So if you still feel any resentment/anger, go and direct it at those poor little defenseless synthesis engines and make some noise =P

bill3107 · Post by **bill3107** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:08 am

i definitly agree with you. Considering the price, it is a very good deal. Furthermore, if you compare the creamware flexibility (you are not forced to have 3 cards in one go...)and the good sound/quality of many plug ins (3rd party but also good synth like minimax, b2003, vectron, profit, ...)a scope system is srill a very good choice. Vst plug ins can be very good (we all have severla ones) but the cpu has its limits. Dsp cards like the creamware cards afford more power, more tools and a great flexibility thanks to the rooting system. There is no comparison with other dsp system...

Jo

dbmac · Post by **dbmac** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:33 am

On 2005-12-15 22:41, braincell wrote:
whatever

Hey Braindead - you provoking me or something?