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On 2004-03-24 16:33, decimator wrote:
This soft red is okay for me, a hard red would have been a straight no !
Contrast is better and I agree with Spacef, works fine in dim light.

cool. i found that without the red that things started looking washed-out (too uniform). i also wanted to give the beastie a little attitude, visually (which red is always good for). i've already made around a hundred presets... guess i should post some sounds? do you guys want the demos dry (straight out of the synth) or through SFP effects. i might do a bit of both as some patches are designed for delay and/or some chorus to get that *certain* sound.

Go ahead, post both !
I miss the 3D redish Op 8 logo of version ... ?

hehehe... doing a couple more internal changes here, with the filter, specifically. I don't want to post any MP3s until I'm satisfied that the sound will totally (and honestly) reflect the release version. Sorry for the delays here, just want things to be really great, straight out of the gate.

I really like the clear layout
needless to say I'm confident the OP8 and your FM project will succeed

Since I got a TX802 I've been quite surprised how different FM can sound just by modification of the order of oscillators (the 802 consists of 8 2-voice-6-ops).
Btw your other synths (specially the Spark) and Solaris mix very well with it.
But the original Yamahas just have an own sound, so SFP doesn't render them useless.

cheers, Tom

(learning to speak like hubird)

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: wavelength on 2004-03-28 18:16 ]</font>

learning to speak hubird...

... though not so eloquently...

Now that OP 8 is near completion, can you tell us more about your larger FM project ?

Something like FM7 with no fixed algorythms and all extras ? I have both FM7 and Rhino, I use FM7 for " pure " FM, I use Rhino for soundscapes FM7 ( or Absynth2 ) can't do.

The big drawback in FM7 for me is that the matrix is not always visible ( smart for a FM synth ! ) and I miss pitch EG / LFOs for each operators.

Will you go for ADSRs or the graphic EGs or both ?

I'am drooling at the perpective of a FM synth on Scope because I know it will sound way brighter / deeper than those synths mentioned and it will make a break from those fabulous VA's we have already !

whoa now!

one thing at a time here for me... I'm really very excited about the OP-8. I've just added a "SID"-emulator 8-bit section and this little beast can really cover a lot of sonic ground now. also, the FM stuff onboard, while limited, is very capable of creating some ultra-FM-sounding patches. take a look at the surface again, both oscillators can be cross-modulated, both oscillators can be modulated also by the dedicated FM oscillator + the FM oscillator can be modualted by OSC2 and then you can add the RingMod which can also be modulated by OSC2 + the filter cutoff can be modualted by OSC2 (all at the same time)... very unusual timbres are possible here.

this is not just another straight-forward VA synth. it can really go very far beyond what one would consider "analogue"-sound.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: wavelength on 2004-03-29 20:03 ]</font>

The GUI is great! The SID addition is a way cool idea. The red LEDs make me crave cinnamon candy...

Could I be possibly impatient ? no way !

Sorry, I'am hungry ...

Yes please, be our guest and put more features on OP 8 !!

One request : could the LFO go beyond 150 Hz, I'am assuming it's 150 Hz because it's often the case.

Like Solaris : 400 "and change" Hz, it does a difference !

can you tell us some more about the SID part? Is this actually a direct model of the SID chip?

On 2004-03-30 17:07, King of Snake wrote:
can you tell us some more about the SID part? Is this actually a direct model of the SID chip?

I certainly did not intend to model the SID-chip directly, I just found that certain perameters could get pretty close to that lofi, crunchy sound that it is famous for. This is just one small part of what the OP-8 can do and its lofi capabilities can be used in ways that do not strictly emulate the SID-chip.

at any rate, i just threw together a demo to show what the OP-8's lofi stuff can sound like. the first demo below is from Elektron's excellent new Monomachine, showing off its own SID-capabilities. the second demo is from my OP-8, i have tried to emulate the patch by ear, without knowing the exact settings, etc... it isn't meant to be exact, but i think you can see that the lofi character is properly represented. the Monomachine's stereo MP3 seems to have some slight reverb on it, as well as some dynamics... my MP3 is dry, staight out of the synth, no dynamics (and mono).

http://www.monomachine.com/sound/soundf ... nchant.mp3

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/MP3s/OP8SID.mp3

I'll post some more MP3s in different styles soon...

- Stephen

wow! Sounds pretty darn close. Is yours also capable to produce some of the more extreme SID tibres?

On 2004-03-30 19:23, scary808 wrote:
wow! Sounds pretty darn close. Is yours also capable to produce some of the more extreme SID tibres?

well... it can do this:

http://www.track0.com/wavelength/MP3s/OP8SIDangry.mp3

again, i just played this live into Wavelab... kind of extreme?

Yeah!!! That sounds like a robotic cat getting neutered! Way cool!

On 2004-03-30 19:42, scary808 wrote:
Yeah!!! That sounds like a robotic cat getting neutered! Way cool!

alright, you got me... the MP3 is really of me neutering my robotic cat, "Glitch".

he kept humping the tv...

truly disturbing... and yet exactly right.