Nails in the Coffin

[Mr Arkadin]

This feels exactly like those ages in which the church controlled the world view and people like Galileo proved them wrong - although Galileo was treated horribly and was effectively under house-arrest for the rest of his life. They were backed up by God who is all-knowing and cannot be questioned. Thankfully some people have the balls to stand up and say the world-view may be wrong. The new god is (government funded ie. controlled) science, which is all-knowing and can't be questioned. There should always be people (right or wrong) with the balls to stand up and say "You know, we may just be wrong about this."

PS. If you want to see global warming in action please visit me in London right now - it's fecking freezing.

[iSiStOy]

+1. Science as "progress" is the new religion and cannot be questionned (or so they say).
By the way, I've always been "amuzed" by the level of knowledge our politics do have. For instance, when they create laws against internet piracy. Most of the french deputies don't even know what an internet connection looks like But they have got "expertises"

[braincell]

Global warming means the world wide temperature on average over time is getting warmer. Scientists have never said that it would be warmer everywhere all the time. If you think that, you are ignorant about global warming. A difference of 2 degrees on average is enormous. If it was 4 degrees, it would be catastrophic. You guys obviously are not informed on this subject.

[Mr Arkadin]

Global warming means the world wide temperature on average over time is getting warmer. Scientists have never said that it would be warmer everywhere all the time. If you think that, you are ignorant about global warming. A difference of 2 degress on average is enormous. If it was 4 degrees, it would be catastrophic.

Oh, so you're saying that sometimes it'll be hotter, sometimes it'll be cooler? Sounds like business as usual with the earth's climate to me.

[braincell]

Yes some places will be colder. Have you even researched this at all?

[iSiStOy]

Plz explain us how one could have missed the full range of explanation we get through our modern medias... I'm curious, really.

[braincell]

You need to google chaos theory.

[iSiStOy]

an you need to know a bit better about probabilities (some fundamentals for understanding about chaos theory)

[braincell]

No I don't because I'm not the one making off-base assumptions about the weather.

[iSiStOy]

Well... This is boring.
The fact that some of us have already stated that because climate is impacted by so many factors that our current knowledges & technologies probably can't give us a viable way for physical modelling of these natural things is direct reference to chaos theory.
And it's fundamentally probability and algebra

[valis]

Global warming means the world wide temperature on average over time is getting warmer. Scientists have never said that it would be warmer everywhere all the time. If you think that, you are ignorant about global warming. A difference of 2 degrees on average is enormous. If it was 4 degrees, it would be catastrophic. You guys obviously are not informed on this subject.

Seems to me that what iSiStOy is referring to when he's brings up probabilities, is that the way you allow your calculations to be 'weighted' can have a dramatic effect on the results that you're literally 'filtering' out the other side. Simple math example I'm sure you remember from High School, a few spurious datapoints throw an average off by quite a bit but RMS (root mean square) is more resistant to this.

Plz explain us how one could have missed the full range of explanation we get through our modern medias... I'm curious, really.

lol!

This was one of the issues brought up with the UK "climategate" emails, read in a certain 'light' you could infer that specific sites were massaged to weight the overall dataset. Of course the linguistically skilled can spin things in so many ways.

[Neutron]

nothing to worry about anyways. once florida sinks underwater, then the gulf stream will no longer warm northern europe, when it freezes over, no more global warming yay!

[siriusbliss]

Yes some places will be colder. Have you even researched this at all?

Have you?
Seems to me you just repeat the now disproven rhetoric.
Where's the real data (rather than government-fed blather)?
Sure, if temperatures go up, it can cause problems, but statistically - including history and even ice samples - temperatures have swung up and down cyclically from the beginning.

Anyone who denies Earth-forces and even stellar impacts on Earth's climate are the true deniars. They'd rather reside in their cloaked self-human loathing, which weakens them and plays right into the plans to make us pay for damages after-the-fact rather than be incentivized to make ourselves self-sustaining.

Playing the Jew card thinking it's a relevant argument is pure crap, and just proves more government brainwash.

And watch where Obomba's 3Bil for 'green' jobs goes - follow the money and you'll see what the real agenda is.

Greg

[iSiStOy]

nothing to worry about anyways. once florida sinks underwater, then the gulf stream will no longer warm northern europe, when it freezes over, no more global warming yay!

We are not able to prevent from that, considering our current knowledge & technology level. That doesn't mean humanity shouldn't give a try to respect its own environment! I say that when at the same time, I'm keeping my home studio on, most of the time, wasting costly energy... This is not a simple thing to do and most of all, that needs some teaching and fluencies in terms of using our own stuff.
But the fact that deciders are trying to deliver that fear message to the mass, whatever the means & costs is just too much for not asking other questions.

[Neutron]

Evil tinfoil hat conspiracy #2

Exxon has an oil rig in the gulf that is actually not an oil rig but a giant underwater machine that controls the gulf stream.

so now Europe freezes and everyone has to buy more oil!

call James Bond!

[iSiStOy]

Paranoia is also not a meaningless thing these days.

[Shroomz~>]

Evil tinfoil hat conspiracy #2

Exxon has an oil rig in the gulf that is actually not an oil rig but a giant underwater machine that controls the gulf stream.

That Exxon rig is actually a gateway to an underground world of interconnected cities, built & controlled by friendly aliens with our help. The aliens live there & they own Exxon amongst many many other powerful companies. The aliens are at war with one another though & we have sided with the friendly ones that advance our technology & don't want to eat us yet.

[garyb]

screw the aliens! they're a buncha jerks! all that knowledge and tech and they let us thrash around like fools. kick 'em in the nuts i say...in the nuts!!!

bc, reading something in popular science isn't the same thing as knowing something. your lack of knowledge is matched only by the number of starts in the night sky. my lack of knowledge, however is matched by the number of starts minus 7, so i'm fit to tell you to stop being a parrot and stop making up your mind before you know something. here's a question. if man-made climate change is the reason the earth heats or cools, explain why the causes behind the middle ages warm period(which world-wide, on average was MUCH warmer than the present) and the mini ice age which followed have nothing to do with any present climate change. explain it thouroughly and completely so that even an idiot like me can understand. explain why during that middle ages warm period that the land didn't disappear under water.

[garyb]

-btw-with microwave voice to skull technology, a tinfoil hat might be very effective in blocking unwanted transmissions.

[netguyjoel]

Where is my Illudium Q-36 explosive space mudulator.....