The New USA

[skwawks]

well the answer is dont borrow money to gamble and when the stocks are down dont sell . The stock market unfortunately bears no relationship to the value of companies and the value of companies is the most important thing i.e. dont invest in american automobile manufacturers [because anyone who thinks a hummer is a good idea is a true fuckwit] and dont ever ever invest in an airline . Invest in SCOPE ..oh sorry.... SONIC CORE .
Hey Tom wev'e got it down to a gk2a and probably a GI 20 but we may fall back to a GI 10 as soon as the $oz gets friggin happening

[dawman]

But here is an excellent investment that will surely have a great ROI.
The CEO of the NRA has already invested heavily, as well as many Southern Republican Politicians down in Texas and Georgia.

http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=BuAo ... 2648881520

[skwawks]

Bullseye

[Zer]

Some time ago at the TV:
Well, George W. Bush is lucky that Barack H. Obama will sweep up his shards and gatrulates:
"Hey - Niggers at the garbage disposal had a long tradition in this country."

[Shroomz~>]

skwawks, it would make a great target for DU tipped darts.

[Neutron]

OMG Americans look past the color of the skin..its a smart human for a change.

[garyb]

smart or dumb, a psychopath is bad. i actually prefer a dumb psycho, though...if forced to choose...nah, back weh with them all if they can't behave!

what did they used to call Clinton? slick willy? and Bush the Senior is no dummy either(neither was his father the Nazi financier/enabler). Reagan was dumb, trust me. Nixon and Carter were not. still, they are not kings. the office is not the seat of power, merely the office of execution and administration. the true power is elsewhere. it's in the making of an identity, buffoon or genius, as far as public perception is concerned. it's in the media that program the minds. oh no, even Obama the smart prays to the same God of Power as GWB(his daddy and Clinton are bestest buddies now!). these guys have their power it's true, but they don't act on their own, or else...

two words:
Plato's cave

[skwawks]

Platos cave ?
Read between the lines may be another way of putting it It's always an interesting read
lets hope Mr. Obama isn't plus ca change plua ca meme chose...wouldn't that be different

[garyb]

[MD69]

Sadly, I don't see how it could be different with a country which have 7.4 Trillions dollars of debts, sovereign fund leaving the western markets weakening US traditional allies.

[garyb]

naturally.

it's the traditional ponzi scheme/3 card monty from the fed and imf...everyone's had lot's of nice toys and no one noticed the complete looting of everyone's true wealth.

[braincell]

First of all, in a time of economic and environmental crisis, it is reprehensible to be rewarding people for having children. These people should be punished. Currently we are giving a tax credit of $2,000 per child per year. That is a lot of money, also churches should have to pay income and property tax. We could solve all of our financial problems right there provided we also stop the wars. We would be rolling in money.

[MD69]

Soylent green !?

Greece seems to have choosen another way: no more healthcare as the government is close to bankrupcy.

seems they listen to you but have taken another implementation: Let's die the weakers ones!

Hope you appreciate theirs efforts to please you!

cheers

[braincell]

I support the living people.

[garyb]

First of all, in a time of economic and environmental crisis, it is reprehensible to be rewarding people for having children. These people should be punished. Currently we are giving a tax credit of $2,000 per child per year. That is a lot of money, also churches should have to pay income and property tax. We could solve all of our financial problems right there provided we also stop the wars. We would be rolling in money.

here you show complete ignorance. there is no economic crisis from people having children.

income taxes have NOTHING to do with social services in the USA. they go 100% to the central bank for interest payments on LOANED money that the country could print on it's own for free. ask Kennedy about what happens when a president tries to print greenbacks without the Fed.

that money you speak of is NOTHING. it's a lot to you, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to subsidies for companies that take all their manufacturing out of the USA and trasfer it all to China.

this "financial crisis" is completely manufactured. genocide and eugenics won't fix that.

the "environmental crisis" is a joke, too. once again, ALL of the people in the world can fit in the state of Texas with 1100 square feet for every person. if the powers that be wished it, industry would be clean, and the unclean industry would be limited. consumer wastefullness is from pavlovian conditioning, just like opinions.

[braincell]

The average home creates 12 tons of CO2 per year. A small car produces 3 tons of CO2 per year. To hide your head in the sand is just blatant ignorance.

[garyb]

The average home creates 12 tons of CO2 per year. A small car produces 3 tons of CO2 per year. To hide your head in the sand is just blatant ignorance.

and these figures mean what? 12 tons sounds like a lot, but it's just a molecule in a raindrop in the ocean...YOU "create" that much CO2 personally. those things don't "create" CO2. CO2 in part of the cycle of life, and actually, CO2 levels are at the lowest point in the earth's history. CO2 is NOT the main component of "greenhouse gasses", it's about 3% and human "produced" CO2 is about .10% of that. the MAIN "greenhouse gas" is still WATER VAPOR at 95%. ban water!

btw- it's stupid to speak of "climate change" as the climate has ALWAYS been changable. it's stupid to speak of "stable climate", as it's never existed. PLUS, the earth's temperatures are NOT rising on average anymore. just because a lot of people believe something, doesn't make it real.

latsly, wth, does that figure have to do with the FACT that the earth is bigger than you thought, and that all the people in it can fit in Texas with 1100 square feet to spare, or that the incoming regime is controlled by the same forces as the outgoing regime?

[Shroomz~>]

the FACT that the earth is bigger than you thought, and that all the people in it can fit in Texas with 1100 square feet to spare

Gary, you've mentioned this point quite a few times, but I've never heard you mention that the state of California (at least until VERY recently) has been using more OIL per year than the WHOLE of China. Is that not a problem given that as a result it's probably one of the most polluted places on the planet, yet not by far one of the most densely populated?

[garyb]

who says it's good to use lots of oil?

never the less, the pollution isn't from exactly what you think, and there's no oil shortage at all, not for ever, only a shortage of refining....and California is NOT highly polluted, the big cities are. as always, with statistics, the devil is in the details, what is and is not said.

the worst pollution is a DIRECT result of globalization and the insane rules that go with it. the worst pollution is from MTBE, which the state of CA was FORCED to put into automobile fuel by NAFTA agreements which made CA liable for all of the Canadian manufacturer's future profits if the substance was banned(which the CA legislature attempted to do). since then, MTBE has contaminated ALL of CA's ground water. the worst pollution is not from what you think.

the legislation that created NAFTA was done by democrats, Clinton's administration negotiated it. Bush continued the program, and Obama has already indicated that he intends to do the same, fascists all around.

[Shroomz~>]

who says it's good to use lots of oil?

You tell me. All I'm saying is that California has a record of using an obscene amount of oil given it's population density.

there's no oil shortage at all, not for ever, only a shortage of refining

Who said there's a shortage of oil?

and California is NOT highly polluted, the big cities are.

I'm sure the pollution spreads. Wind/air flow is a wonderful thing.

as always, with statistics, the devil is in the details, what is and is not said.

I'm sure.