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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 2:49 pm
by algorhythm
On 2002-04-18 13:11, dxl wrote:
so what?
he don't use the synths and effects
but the routin system i suppose.
i don't think this is true. i heard that he dug the Zarg stuff . . .

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 2:56 pm
by snoopy4ever
On 2002-04-18 11:49, caleb wrote:

Didn't Hans Zimmer win an Oscar for the soundtrack of Gladiator using a Creamware Pulsar or Scope??

He was at least nominated I think.


I'd like to know if that's true.. I've been hearing about that also. Does someone have that information?? or some link where we could go and confirm it? .

thanks.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 3:03 pm
by subhuman
<a href=http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,7 ... html>Check the link</a> .. it was nominated, yes, for an Oscar.

And if you watched the Gladiator DVD, you will see an interview with Hans Zimmer, in the background you can see his SCOPE routing environment.

And yes, Zarg has made some custom synths especially for Mr. Zimmer, and if you look carefully over at http://www.earlyfirst.com ....


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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 3:47 pm
by The Z Station
Well now, that's good to know!
Although, do they acutally have an award for the most innovative audio systems? In speaking with a a Digidesign rep here, ProTools has won many awards from the Oscars to the Grammys.

Do they have a specific award for the actual system hardware platform?

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 6:47 pm
by dxl
coz it's a fun new thing to play at that time, 1998(woe!! the first real studio package in PC) so he shows that in the DVD. or it's another commercial realated reason.
$$

he has a pulsar not a scope.

but it doesn't mean anything about the product.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:04 pm
by caleb
Yes it does mean something about the product DXL.

It means someone gained world renown for a piece of work completed on that product.

But I agree - it doesn't really mean the product is better than anything else out there. Maybe good for sales and that's about it.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:19 pm
by ohmelas
I bought my Pulsar for the following reasons:
1. I got a good deal on ebay.
2. I tried the MOTU 2408, the Yamaha DSP Factory, ADAT edit, Paris, and Hammerfall systems. None of them could singly do what the Pulsar system can!
3. I wanted to streamline my work environment. Pulsar allowed me to get rid of a bunch of old synths and samplers, reaplacing an entire rack in my studio.
4. Pulsar has a patch bay. This is so understated but is functional beyond anything else besides the processing power.
5. My wife said I could spend the real money on a real system and I'm still like a kid in a candy store. I love it.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:21 pm
by ohmelas
Does DxL always have to spout off about stupid s$#t?
The price we all pay for freedom when he speaks er writes...God help the Constitution.

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 9:00 pm
by subhuman
<i>he has a pulsar not a scope. </i>

WHO YOU PLEASE PLEASE STOP TALKING OUT OF YOUR A$$? Once again, you are making up incorrect information and posting it around everywhere. This is not true.

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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:03 am
by garyb
it's another commercial realated reason.
$$
duh!

no haters!

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:41 am
by djody
I still have them becouse i want to irritante dxl HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:50 am
by Spirit
I was always a hardware person. Over the years so many synths ! Perhaps dozens. But I always disliked the "spagehti jungle" of audio and midi leads and constant repatching (not to mention tearing down the whole system to play live).

So I thought I'd just get a bit of PC gear to see how it went. I quizzed the music stores, poked about on the web, and was constantly disappointed in that it was always "how fast is your PC" ? I didn't want to buy a bit of PC kit AND a new PC....

And then Pulsar !

The rest be history. After all the hardware I've owned I think Pulsar is the best bit of kit I've ever operated. It is certainly the best value. For the same money I was considering a Korg MS2000. But to copmpare them: 4 note polyphony versus a constantly expanding, evolving, improving system which includes, mixing, effects, synths, samplers !

Sometimes it's easy to take it for granted and grumble about specific functions (I know I do :lol: ) but all up it's truly amazing.

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 9:44 am
by coc999
hi:),i choose a pulsar but i must say not for technical reasons cause i was not abble to make a real difference beetween all the systems on market(i had just an atari with an akai s20).I choose a Pulsar plus cause(after demos) i had the feeling that it is a kind of open and intelligent way to have a computerizzed audio system,in sense that if your needs are growing and your technical level too(and talent of course) this system had no limit for experimentations and discovering,that is the main reason.Second reason was that a friend of mine who is a real mastering master have at this period used pulsar in his studio just for conversion and routing he tells me "take it,don't hesitate" so i lesson advice and i don't regret.
happy week end pz people:)

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:22 pm
by astroman
... and was constantly disappointed in that it was always "how fast is your PC" ? I didn't want to buy a bit of PC kit AND a new PC....
And then Pulsar !
funny thing, for me it was just the other way around, but with absolutely the same result :lol:
I knew about Pulsar from the mags and all agreed '... but you need a fast machine for the interface...', so I thought 'no stuff for my Celeron 333...'
After returning an Aardvark card (great reviews but a real piece of s..) to the shop they convinced me to try the Pulsar over the weekend. I was completely blown away: it had all I ever dreamed of, simply the perfect system with that flexibility. And it worked without hazzle on that small machine.
Of course I made the deal and never regretted. I got it for $550 (someone had exchanged it for a Pulsar 2 - my luck), Propack was $150 and Triple plug the same - a really competetive system for that price.

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 4:47 pm
by dxl
oh he has a scope?
oh then sorry, that is what i heard from one of my budy who have meet him.

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2002 4:21 am
by EarlyFirst
1xPulsarII

this is what I have if I need it.....


Dynamic Mixer 8mono channels
Micro Mixer 4mono channels
16multifx M's we will get to those..
adat in/out 8channels
now for the insert's
first slot in each channel of the Dynamic Mixer
8 PEQ4bands 4 bands activated
second slot
MultiFX M
now for the slots we add from 1to6 down
in no set order
8 Hi Cut
8 Lo Cut
8 Compressors
8 Limiters
8 SoftClip
8 More MultiFX M's for the last slot ( not really needed tho )
In the first slot of the MFX
8 Deesser's

now we add on top of all that drop into the project
2 PT-FREE-96's

remember the MicroMixer
that's a 4 channel buss now for one of the PT's
The Other can go on the Mix Out's of the Dynamic Mixer for monitoring or another 2 channels on the outputs or pre Dynamic Mixer if you wish etc...

Show that to someone in a studio lacking send/returns via the console, what do you think the reaction would be...

remember even a P2-400 would be enough to run this with a good motherboard ofcourse.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2002 6:20 pm
by EarlyFirst
LOL

figures.... as soon as someone gave numbers the thread would die :wink:

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2002 6:46 pm
by caleb
Actually, I was really interested in the info you gave.

I've never thought about my setup like that.

I seem to create the set up each time and it's always different, but for a mixdown project, having everything that "rigid" is probably a really good idea. Saves you setting it up from scratch over and over again.

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2002 11:00 pm
by Nestor
I like the Pulsar setup so very much, that I want to go on with it and nothing else… I mean, If I were to buy another System, I would buy a Pulsar AGAIN, no doubt at all, or even better a Scope system.

Obviously, I'm missing for it to be more stable cos there are eventually some stability problems that do not depend on my system. I have to say too, that Pulsar Software is every time more and more stable.

Those little problems can be important at times when you are busy and need to finish something “right away”, but are insignificant compare with all the wealth you pull out of it.

Anyway, these bugs are minor bugs and I always arrive to finish my ideas in a single day, or let's say, in a go, of course depending on what you have to do.

The only real problem I have had is with some “projects” not willing to load, so you have to load them again and again and again till they load correctly. I've been careful to the most to be absolutely sure it wasn't anything else, i.e., a program, or hardware incompatibility, bad configuration,etc.

I have had so much satisfaction working with Pulsar… So, soooo many hours of great musical fulfilment! I'm so grateful to it!

Obviously, I still have a Pulsar cos IT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, not because anybody told me to get one, but because I EXPERIENCED IT by myself, while making music!

I was very traumatised when I first had to go into the Digital Arena cos I didn't find real help. Each person had a completely different and subjective - to say the least - view of the Digital Arena and it's positilities. Sellers disappointed me completely and their knowledge about the different Sound Cards they were selling, was totally out of date, incomplete and even contradictory. I was looking for somebody with real experience, but couldn't find any to talk with, willing to guide me a little.

I didn't know what to do, there were so many possibilities and so many Sound Cards! It was a hell!

Well, I said to myself: “Don’t go into it till you know what you're doing and buying. Have some knowledge first, and then go for it”.

So I started to read everything about everything regarding Digital Music. Bought many magazines, went to all the web sites related with those things, etc., etc., then found Pulsar for myself. Studied it and was amazed at what the concept was. I found it extraordinarily intelligent and powerful.

Then I went to the personal part: “What do I want to do exactly and which are my needs?” So I found that Pulsar, apart from the fact of being special to my eyes, and "EARS" cos it sounded so extremely good that I couldn't believe my ears, particularly it's synths. Pulsar was as well just what I needed and honestly, much more...

My next step was to search for REAL knowledgeable people to build up my system, so I searched hard! Some were just opportunists, students from university building any kind of computer for little money, others were musicians looking a way of helping themselves, but without real inside knowledge on the matter. Others again, were business kind of people telling you that their HP computer was exactly what you were looking for… Swindlers and nothing else! I really dislike this way of getting a life!

Fortunately, a very good and extremely useful magazine called Computer Music - http://www.computermusic.co.uk/main.asp - was first released in the UK, there you could find all sort of advices on how to find the proper computer.

Little by little, under the method of “discrimination”, arrived to one of the best builders in the world, these people, apart of being very responsible are extremely knowledgeable on what they do: They build up Computer Systems FOR MUSIC and period! They do but this, so they are very specialised on what they do. They are called Area 51UK, and they rock! If you are looking for a system that rocks, have a go with them.

I'm not sure this information is still valid, cos if from 4 years ago but here you have it anyway, for those who are in Europe con they are in England:

Area 51 UK
Phone: 01442 235151
E-Mail:area51uk@aol.com

Most people buy their systems, and then choose a Sound Card to go. AREA 51UK guys advice you about which is the best Sound Card for you, depending on your needs, and then build the System up absolutely based on your Sound Card! This is the intelligent procedure.

Four years have gone so far and I've still only four DSP, I own a Pulsar I Plus. What can I say? It's the BEST, the very BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! buy I've never ever made in my whole life! I just would like to have another 6 DSP, and that's all I need for being able to work without any restriction.

I'm completely in love with Pulsar :wink:

Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2002 11:17 pm
by caleb
Nestor, you are probably the only person I know who consistently waffles as much or more than I do.

I feel some sort of brotherhood forming. :smile: