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please, give some detail spec on Noah
so we can compare to other stuff, no comparsoms, no comptitions no real world.
where you live?
if order to proove Noah is Good for 2000USD they must give alot more detail to satisified not just creamware users.

DXL - you haven't really got the hang of this have you. This is not some religious thing..

Companies (including creamware and novation) make products. These products are priced based on things like - production (and development) costs, the price the market will support etc. They then attempt to market their stuff. People buy it or don't. Its as easy as that. They don't need to "Prove" anything. What they do need to do is make a product that people go - "hey I want one of those and I am willing to pay that price for it". Its simple.


I don't see what you list of supernova features has to do with anything - people buy musical instruments based on how they sound and how playable they are as well as there possibilites - you might as well compare kilograms/$.

mark

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: junklight on 2002-03-18 07:16 ]</font>

There is nothing wrong with comparing stuff, you just don't compare synths on spec lists alone. What does it matter where I live?
Of course it looks impressive if you post all the specs of the Supernova (including dimensions, weight, the fact that it has a keyboard and much more completely irrelevant gibberish) but does it say anything about how it SOUNDS?? NO!
The Noah has only just been officially announced a few days ago, the Supernova is already a few years old. Please be patient, more info will be coming, there's already info on creamware site and on the other links provided in this thread, I advise you to follow these if you so desperately want to compare voice numbers, knob amounts and dimensions.
Also you must keep in mind what Noah is intended to. You can already see it in the name: Noah, Tactive Instrument Modeller.
Creamware obviously wants to market this thing primarily on it's accurate modelling of "real" instruments, rather than lots of synthesizer voices. I don't think they want to take on Suprnova and Virus head on with this machine so they focused on something different.

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<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: King of Snake on 2002-03-18 07:24 ]</font>

ok then if you two consist you way to love creamware it's great!
lets see how then newer demos sound like!
HOPE they are impressive!
HOPE more effects, another cheap effect board like supernova2 will be ok!
but only 2 parts, even the KorgMS2000 have 4 parts.

lets see how they make it a masterpeace!!
oh, and patiently!

The MS2000 is a great synth (I own one myself;) but it can produce only program on one midi channel. It's 1000€ for 1 synth, NOAH is like 1000€ for ALL synths

1000,- € is about 1250,- U$ I think

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: at0mic on 2002-03-18 23:07 ]</font>

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: at0mic on 2002-03-19 02:49 ]</font>

cool u start being pickier!
what is the conversion for 1000€ to USD?
i know MS2000 is about 1100CAD
1.59CAD=1USD

You obviously didn't read my post at all or didn't understand a word of it. Instead, you choose to come again with baseless accusations that I would be some sort of Creamware worshipper, while I was only pointing out the wrongs in your reasoning. Again you bring up the tiresome "only 2 parts" rant, again completely ignoring the fact that Noah's strength lies in it's upgradability/flexibility, and the instrument modelling. You seem to be more interested in cheap effects and high voicecounts. So obviously this synth is not for you, don't buy it, why continue your tiresome negative vibes?
At no point in my previous post the words " love" and "creamware" were mentioned together. I will no longer continue trying to have a sensible discussion with you as you obviously insist on going on in this pointless way. You seem to be one of those kids who always has to be right in everything, regardless of what anyone says.

i read ur post.
my conclousion is wait and see. That is all! very simple!

i see that dxl makes you all very angery very easy,
you takes it too presonliy ! (like you were CW)
any feedback is good it's just challenging CW to be better & develop for the good of all.
so, Don't Stop dxl from....

Agreed, and anyway, DXL is getting better every day. At least his comment now are without hatered...I think people overreact to quickly

Well, I'm not angry, I don't take it personally, I just hate it when people don't listen and repeat themselves. It's tiresome. I try to point out things and it just get's ignored. That's not a discussion. Again, there's nothing wrong with feedback and comparisons, but only if you can base it on decent arguments and facts.
"Wait and see" was exactly what you should do, giving that there's still so little info on Noah.

King of Snake - I like you - a glimmer of rationality against the infectious negative view of a punk kid

*blush*

Just doing my job sir!