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Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:52 am
by ronnie
Touche, Jimmy. :P
BaDaBing!

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:42 am
by Nestor
dawman wrote:The acoustic Pianos are not my choice.
But the Rhodes is so realistic.

As long ss you dont buy this for the Pianos youll be happy.
Mmmm, don't know Jimmy... I haven't played them yet, but they seem to be pretty useful to me, covering a big spectrum of possibilities. Then it is important not to forget you can tweak them from Omnisphere, which gives a hell of a lot more of possibilities on top, you will pretty much do anything you want with each instrument.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:47 am
by Nestor
dawman wrote:Probably meant if you used their samples during a Human fucking a Goat video they would demand satisfaction.
Jimmy, stop killing me... :lol: :lol: :lol: you're crazy man...

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:55 am
by dawman
There are lots of great samples of C7 and Upright.
But you'll notice the demos are very allegro.
No Rubato demos at all.
Natural is a preset that has the most sustain but still just doesn't satisfy a Piano buff like me.
Sounded like a Kurzweil Piano module from 15 years ago.
Play it fast and rock & roll it, sounds fine.
Trying to serenade woodland Nymphs with ballads of love and tenderness, no way.

I serenade skanky old bar flies so I could get away with it doing the stuff we do.
But even on Layla Piano Solo by Derik and the Dominoes (Clapton, Duane Allman, etc) it's a no joy.
But Im spoiled by Malmsjo and PTeq Upright, not easy to beat those.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 10:03 pm
by Nestor
Well, yes, you are a purist I guess... :) I see it as a composer that looks for instruments, more than a pianist that looks for perfection, which I am not. I understand your point well.

Then, the price, honestly, for what it is, is really cheap!

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 2:47 pm
by Nestor
Guys..., it is the moment to start saving our money to get this one! This is an unavoidable purchase! Period! Eric has always been my preferred VSTi developer for these kind of instruments. He has such an excellence on his perception of the sounds he works on, such an understanding of what we need and want, and finally, the products he pushes into the market are second to none. I’m so very happy for this one! :D Wow!

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:12 pm
by dawman
Having it inside of Omnisphere makes it a serious composition tool.
Flawless recalling and creating new user presets.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:08 pm
by Nestor
dawman wrote:Having it inside of Omnisphere makes it a serious composition tool.
Flawless recalling and creating new user presets.
Do you already have it? Because you sound like it, or did you played it somewhere? Tell me please.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 4:17 pm
by astroman
Nestor wrote:
dawman wrote:Probably meant if you used their samples during a Human fucking a Goat video they would demand satisfaction.
Jimmy, stop killing me... :lol: :lol: :lol: you're crazy man...
well, ot and no goat available, but a sheep may do...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNMq8XS4LhE

the bass is for you, Nestor :D

cheers, Tom

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 8:31 pm
by dawman
Ankyu....

Them some fine Sheep there Astro.
:D

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 1:20 pm
by Marco
This Sounds incredible! I got a real grand at home, thats most incredible, but this library kills all others.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:45 pm
by dawman
Nestor wrote:
Do you already have it? Because you sound like it, or did you played it somewhere? Tell me please.
I've had it the day it was released.
Yeah, it's awesome.

I'm still adding controllers to apply hardware filters and FX as the auto wah stuff is OK, but through my rig has that typical Native Veil.

Granular on the metallic samples is making me want to snort some Mescaline.
It's really a trip having this is in Omnisphere.
Brilliant concept.
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The USB 3 Cards are something I never saw before.
Just pop a tab out and stick them in.

Nice new fast DAW Gary B. built for the new XITE-1.
That DAWg will hunt.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:04 pm
by Nestor
What a lucky bustard you are Jimmy! :D Sorry, I couldn’t resist to call you that! :P I expect from you, at least, a few jazz-fusion chops! I know you can easily kill me softly with them! :lol:

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:27 pm
by ronnie
I have most of the great piano VST's (and Pianoteq is pretty much my fave) - but this Keyscape beast is most desirable for all the keyboards you get in one place. I imagine it is a CPU hog although that doesn't dissuade me. I do have to point out that the great musicians doing the Keyscape demos can most likely make any free plug-in sound awesome. Not that I'm so great but I can still listen to stuff I did 30 years ago with a Casio CZ and Yamaha FB-01 and Alesis Micro thingies and they sound pretty good. Having said that, 30 years ago those things were inspiring for hours on end and I'm sure Keyscape would be great to have when I get the bread for this and Omnisphere. When will it ever end. Seems like every few months I'm getting married to or divorcing another freakin' plug-in. I prolly could have bought a real Steinway or some such by now. Sigh.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:36 pm
by Nestor
ronnie wrote:When will it ever end. Seems like every few months I'm getting married to or divorcing another freakin' plug-in.
I think we have already arrived to this place and moment. At least, I did. I have many plugins effects as well as instruments and libraries I consider to be perfect exactly as they are, and I don’t even care if there is an update or not coming anymore, they are “out of the time”, so to say, so good they are. We have reached such a level of perfection in plugins, synths, etc., that, to my ears and needs, the rush has calmed down almost completely. These instruments have become kind of REAL INSTRUMENTS that can stay forever as they are.

I certainly can accept Keyscape used alongside with Omnisphere, as the ultimate and final stop of what I could ever use as keyboards, and definitely, not to suffer the need for something else at all for the rest of my life. I would be very busy using these instruments instate! Word! :wink:

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:10 am
by astroman
ronnie wrote:... but I can still listen to stuff I did 30 years ago with a Casio CZ and Yamaha FB-01 and Alesis Micro thingies and they sound pretty good. ...
I recently revitalized a Casio CZ1000 with lots of dead buttons by an app - and it's a breeze to tweak now
maybe humble, but a great instrument with it's own particular sound :D

cheers, Tom

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:58 am
by ronnie
:D I've been using Virtual CZ by Oli Larkin from Plugin Boutique. I got it for a great intro price at the time. It has CZ-1, 101, 1000, TZ modes and I think it can even pull in the original card SYSEX but I haven't done that (I guess via MIDI dump).
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Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:03 pm
by dawman
Thats a decent sound subtractive VI actually....

Thanks

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:35 am
by Marco
The keyscapes grand piano is really the best sounding electronic reproduction of a piano. When I played this keyscape grand piano for a few hours I wanted to know if it is better than my real grand??? This Blüthner 280 from 1937 killed the keyscape piano after 5 seconds I knew what I have under my fingers.
So people, believe what ever you like, but the sampling technology is still problematic, no comparision possible with a high end grand picked up with a few good Microphones!!!

BUT the electric are phantastic! I have the first Hohner Pianet N found, which sounds like my real one at home! Yes I'm lucky to have it! I must say it is not 100% the same, spectrasonic added expansion from 61 to a 88 Key version, and these virtual keys are recreated imaginary perfect! Good work! NI Kompete Samples sucked 100%. I dont know what they have sampled, but it sounds very different. And a Pianet is really not difficult to sample, because there isnt very much velocity response!

The original is still the best.

Re: Spectrasonics Keyscape

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 10:54 am
by garyb
why would you ever use a plugin instead of a real piano unless you don't have the piano, or the room for it, or the ability to move it, or need to use midi?