Book about Sonic core ?

[kensuguro]

google translate

[dante]

Google translate only translates words, not full syntax so still hard to read. A proper translation would be better. Will see.

[sunmachine]

It's probably extracted from the english Wikipedia.
The description in the ebay auction is a quotation from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Core

[Nestor]

10 years ago I would have been crazy and probably the first reading it. Today, I could easily publish my own book about Creamware, Pulsar and S/C... And what if we think about Gary, he would be the best one to actually write a book on S/C and related, and you bet it would be full of humor and interesting ideas too

Gary getting ready his ideas about S/C:

[dante]

I think everyone should chime in and write it

[garyb]

my head!

[hubird]

not really Nestor, the best would be someone with enough professional distance from the subject and company, to garantee journalistic objectivity and credibility.
This says nothing about Gary's or anyone elses qualities here, it's just the principle for a good book.
A recommandation or introduction for a book is a different thing of course.

edit after Gary's former post a split second before mine: you see, gary is wise enough to know...

[dante]

I dont agree entirely with that. HUROLURA wrote me a great summary - on his iPhone - lol - essay size (could be used as a basis for a book introduction as you say - with a bit more polish). But I dont see why the same positional objectivity couldn't be carried through an entire book) - about the history of S|C - and it's as good as any unbiased position could be. And I quote:

"When Creamware last went insolvent in 2007, Scope technology was bought out by 2 teams: One is India based InDSP and is lead by Frank Hund (CreamWare founder). This is mainly the team Frank set up in India after the first CreamWare fail in 2003. They achieve most of the work which brought the ASB line to the market. This team has designed the Plugiator made and sold by Use Audio. inDSP Audio Technologies Pty Ltd

The other one is German based SonicCore lead by Holger Drenkelfort & Juergen Kindermann who were working on John Bowen Solaris at that time. They went on producing ASB for a while but focused on the Xite-1/Xite-1D afterwards.

Sonic Core.

In 2010, Juergen Kindermann left Sonic Core to found Ferrofish to focus on hardware like his A16 Mk II and also has the right to use Scope Technology. His last product, the B4000+ is the first of an ASB II line of product. So if you are looking for a standalone synth new I would just keep an eye on that company.

So now, you have three companies using Scope technology.

Not that much news has come from inDSP in the last 2 years (possibly they were more involved in providing consultancy for other companies and wouldn't be surprised if some of the last DSP on board products released recently would have some of their work onboard). But much is still going on with SonicCore (Xite-1 released in 2009 with Scope 5, Xite-1D released in 2010, Mod IV released in 2011 and Scope 6 announced to come) and Ferrofish (A16 MK II in 2010 and B4000+ released in 2011).

And now Scope 6 is under development "

[hubird]

Sure, there's a lot information known worth summarizing
But that's only the surface.

Say a journalist of the old German Keyboards who made reviews of Creamware products in the past wants to know what exactly happened during the insolvancy period, the negotations between Frank Hund and the restarters of S/C, possible conflicts between them, the price for the legacy, etc.
Then the struggle and the strategy of S/C to stay in the market.
An in depth reseach of a remarkable niche product would be interesting.

Maybe one of the conclusions of such journalist would be that the abandonation of XTC is a big fault of S/C, marketingwise.
Who knows?
An objective book is worth much more than an enthousiast description of all the possibilities of Scope.
That would be kind of an extended manual or utilities collection only interesting for those who know already.
A 'Scope for dummies' so to say.
If that's the intention, then go ahead I'd say

[dawman]

Here he is om page 26, wondering how the fuck this machine ever worked..........

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[garyb]

anyone who blames S|C for abandoning XTC mode wouldn't know what the f he was talking about. XTC was abandoned by no one other than Creamware, WAAAAAYYYY back in v3 and that is because it will likely never work better than it does now.

there is no interesting story that anyone not directly involved knows. any journalist(is there any such thing anymore?) who wanted to know about negotiations with Frank, Holger and Juergen would have to start by interveiwing those guys. there's no info in wiki. also, it was the courts that sold off Scope, not Frank. Frank has the rights to certain bits of old code relating to the Plugiator and it's plugins. Ferrofish has the rights to code relating to the ASB boxes. S|C owns everything new relating to Scope technology as well as the source code. in other words, any new developments are S|C's, v5, v6, XITE....

[dante]

Who the hell DID do your folders, Jimmy ?

[katano]

serious guys, this can't be serious

[garyb]

that's what i said, but there really seems to be some kind of book...

what didn't he do to his folders? beware of tap to click on a touchpad...

[hubird]

early moral protest against 'open access publishing':
http://rrresearch.fieldofscience.com/20 ... ences.html

according to an article in a dutch paper these publications fit in the ratrace for having as much publications as possible since numbers are used for ranking lists of academci.
Publications in questionable (only digital) papers/magazins, fake publications like the current discussed ones, etc.
It's the downside of today's (positive) open acces to scientific knowledge by the internet, as widely stated.

[dawman]

Well the internet has made better liars of all of us.
For example I don't pown any of these products, but love to dream about having such a privaledge, so I steal tunes from a Fusions Jazz forum, post their work and claim it's S|C stuff in hopes of someday getting a free Solaris or XITE-1 for giving such great facials.

[Nestor]

Damn!, You've got me!

[Eanna]

Guessing anyone who put money down on this has not gotten the book..?

Found this about the publishers:
https://plus.google.com/111610247864593 ... DNePSz9NXC

Amazon still has the purported S|C book, and a raft of other books across a wild variety of subjects, under the same authors' names and that same publishing house:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=ntt_athr_ ... evancerank

Amazon, care to comment?!

[dawman]

I think I want the history of the IPCC book...

The latest chapter about how record ice formations at the poles doesn't mean that the Suns radiation, trapping the evil C02 gasses, which really formed the Planet and the ozone in the first place, isn't flawwed.

The Ice is now 50% thinner, so it's still possible to scare the Sheep using assertions that the lack of thickness still means cities will be underwater. Even Al Gores 9 million dollar Beach house at Malibu, which would be underwater according to his own movie, is still in danger from the new record ice levels melting too quickly.

[jhulk]

the problem with climate change is its alawys happening all you have todo is read history reports on times and weather

in the time of the roman conquest of britania great britain as its called today they talk about it being cold and rainy all the time well we are living this same type climate now

30 years ago when i was a we nippper 12 the weather used to change we had very cold winters that lasted 3-4months we would get 6-8 foot snow drifts and be off school upto 2-3 weeks over the 3 month winter period

spring would be wet but warm and summers would be hot and i would get very brown

as the climate is now we are lucky if we get 2 weeks out of the 3 month summer being hot it seems we got 1-2 days hot weather then 4-5 days rain

and our winters are not very cold if we get snow it lasts max a week this year we had snow in the late spring rather than winter months

they use the climate change as an excuse to charge green levy taxes

our pollution today is a lot less than than during the industrial revolution as i live were it all started the black country now from pictures taken at the time and drawing the sky was filled with chimneys and were filling the sky with black smoke and there used to be smog by late after noon were the smoke used to come down to ground level and you could not see very far in front

my dad said when he was a we lad that birmingham was just a big black cloud from all the steam engines

and my father inlaw who used to work at bescot coal sheds on the steam loco,s said it was very polluted air just look at some of the films of the 20-60,s and you can see

the climate is just ever changing as it ever did they proved that parts of alaska used to have tropical climate

until the last ice age so at some point we are heading for another ice age

its also proven that the land masses move wales is getting larger as it raises but london is sinking as are parts of the midlands as river banks are flooding during the summer months not just the winter months

i doubt in my life time that london will be under water but they say 20-30 years that some parts of london will be under water

but climate change will never happen to stop the pollution as china carries on pumping what ever it like and india

as there industrial revolutions are still happening
uk and usa industrial revolutions happened and died as most of our manufacturing processes have been moved to the asia continents because its cheaper to pay a £1 a day rather than pay a good rate of pay to a usa or uk resident

and the weather climate will just go full circle so at some point the earth will get colder for its seasons and hotter

but at the moment in uk they seem to be just 1 climate all year with the odd day of suprize sunshine like the other day 23 in late september which was hotter than most days this summer