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Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:01 pm
by t_tangent
jhulk, interesting info that, will take a note for future refernce as it might make a nice first project for a budding DIYer. :) I guess for someone with a bit of electronics know how and a little spare time it would be the way to go, although it might not be quite so straight forward for some. :(

Bud, will let you know if I ever see an SA2X-O for sale second hand. They do show up from time to time though, for example I just saw this from last year. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/gearslut ... a2x-o.html

And in case you didnt see, Goldpoint also sell directly on ebay, in case that is of interest. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDPOINT-SA2 ... 2578c59f86

Other possiblilties might be Coleman Audio, or the SPL as you said but I havent ever tried them. Sorry I can't help more, but best of luck. :)

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:02 am
by katano
and to just add another humble opinion, I use this one (I think I'll get bashed by the pros for this one ;-)). It's not exactly discrete, but offers room correction (mid-lows) and connection for two pairs of speakers. You can even feed it digitally. It works pretty well for me and my xite.

http://www.krksys.com/krk-ergo.html

Cheers,
Roman

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:39 am
by jhulk
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDPOINT-STE ... 25726ca9ce

gold point already have 10k version

all you have to do is add box input xlr's and output xlr's

and your done no need to solder any resistors or work anything out

only 3 wires to each xlr

to input and output of each attenuator

so for £24 gold quality dual xlr trs balance jacks for 4 that way you can use either balanced jack or xlr's

a box for £15 just like the one they use a hole saw cutter and a bit of silver wire

for about £150 and 2 hours work

thats an easy diy project for anyone

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 am
by Fluxpod
I use this http://www.thomann.de/de/sm_pro_audio_nano_patch.htm

Tested it with 1 speaker thru the pot and one directly from my da Converter.

Level Matched to 0.1 db. Da Converter is a Pcm 1794 from Ross Martin-Speakers Adam P22a with ICE Amps.

I stopped looking at Expensive simple Volume Solutions after that.It is 100% Transparent. There is a Slight l/R Mismatch on the very Bottom Position but as i dont ever use it there, doesnt Bother me.

I would never use these at work but for Home use its more then good...

I use it for around 3-4 years now with 0 Issues.

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:00 am
by Fluxpod
And to answer the original Question about the Dangerous unit.Its the real deal.Nothing ITB comes close, you have to use it in a mix situation.Its really that good.But you need good Converters.So its not really a cheap solution.

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:55 pm
by garyb
:) what do you think is inside the 2Bus?

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:23 am
by Fluxpod
garyb wrote::) what do you think is inside the 2Bus?
A very well thought out resistor network i guess. I really dont care but it sounds rock n roll ;)

I mix into it daily from a Harrison Triton on a third "aux" for colour and vibe. Soundracks really swing air from it.

Here is a track that was fully mixed thru- into the 2 b + expansion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqrfdxu1 ... ate=active

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:06 pm
by Ricardo
jhulk wrote:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GOLDPOINT-STE ... 25726ca9ce

gold point already have 10k version

all you have to do is add box input xlr's and output xlr's

and your done no need to solder any resistors or work anything out

only 3 wires to each xlr

to input and output of each attenuator

so for £24 gold quality dual xlr trs balance jacks for 4 that way you can use either balanced jack or xlr's

a box for £15 just like the one they use a hole saw cutter and a bit of silver wire

for about £150 and 2 hours work

thats an easy diy project for anyone
Wanna bet!!! :roll:

The Sm pro M-Patch 2 gets a good review in SoundonSound. It sells for about $175 US.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec06/a ... mpatch.htm

An SPL 2 Channel went for AU $185 on ebay yesterday.
So there are options for those of us who haven't touched a soldering iron for 20 years.

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:00 pm
by Ricardo
Fluxpod wrote:And to answer the original Question about the Dangerous unit.Its the real deal.Nothing ITB comes close, you have to use it in a mix situation.Its really that good.But you need good Converters.So its not really a cheap solution.
And I also only have the old A16 18bit 44.1/48khz ADDA converter. So I guess I would need to upgrade that as well, wouldn't I?

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:35 am
by Fluxpod
Ricardo wrote:
Fluxpod wrote:And to answer the original Question about the Dangerous unit.Its the real deal.Nothing ITB comes close, you have to use it in a mix situation.Its really that good.But you need good Converters.So its not really a cheap solution.
And I also only have the old A16 18bit 44.1/48khz ADDA converter. So I guess I would need to upgrade that as well, wouldn't I?

Yes.Something like a Lynx Aurora 16 with the LT adat card.Or the new Antelope Orion.Wouldnt use anything lesser then that as the chain of all devices should be of high class.Maybe even the new Ferrofish.I havent heard it but People seem to like it so Demo a few units if you can.

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:40 pm
by Ricardo
Thanks for the heads up Fluxpod. Due to funding that might have to be a mission for later on.
BTW: I've only just returned to recording after a complete 7 year break. I've been ITB completely for the last year, and had no need for the ADDA converter. But, it just occured to me, are people using ADAT to connect to OTB hardware such as compressors and EQs etc, as well as synths and multi ins and whatever?

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:22 am
by Fluxpod
Ricardo wrote:Thanks for the heads up Fluxpod. Due to funding that might have to be a mission for later on.
BTW: I've only just returned to recording after a complete 7 year break. I've been ITB completely for the last year, and had no need for the ADDA converter. But, it just occured to me, are people using ADAT to connect to OTB hardware such as compressors and EQs etc, as well as synths and multi ins and whatever?
If the Devices have Adat or S/pdif or Aes/Ebu connections then yes.But not always.You have the choice.As Example the H8000 has Aes-Adat Analog Outputs and Inputs.How you connect them is up to you. :)

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:25 pm
by Ricardo
Thanks.
One more question. How does the Lynx LT-USB connection integrate with the Scope GUI. Is it a plugin, or does it appear as an ADAT A and B like the A16? Also, would a firewire connection also show up in Scope?

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:13 am
by Fluxpod
Ricardo wrote:Thanks.
One more question. How does the Lynx LT-USB connection integrate with the Scope GUI. Is it a plugin, or does it appear as an ADAT A and B like the A16? Also, would a firewire connection also show up in Scope?
You need the Lt-ADAT card(http://www.lynxstudio.com/product_detail.asp?i=22) to connect the converter to your xite.The LT USB is its own Interface.

Re: Connect XITE to a 2BUS device

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 3:09 pm
by Ricardo
thanks for that. Good to know.