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We are far from free, no disillusionment with me. The fact I have to pay a Personal Property Tax on land I agreed to purchase, and eventually own w/o payment is just Mafia/Government shit.
And after decades of protecting European Nations from the evil Soviets, it's just odd that we see these "free" people escaping back to the very nations that threatened their freedon only 23 years ago....
We have a new Obama/Van Jones mantra called top down, bottom up.
The peasants Cheer at this as if it will sonehow apply to them when actually it will be detrimental.
Bottum up can be translated into raising the retirement age by 4 years, and the wonderful Peasants Health Care Act, simply is a Government takeover much like Prohibition was ended beacuse the Kennedys, Capones and other Gangsters were making "tooMuch" money. Not becasue of some righteous protection of the little people, if that were the case why do the Feds tax the sales of alchohol and shakedwon the distributors...?
And the Top Down mantra means anyone over the age of 75 will simply get less treatment, and if they have Cancer, or need a new hip, they are viewed as unproductive citizens, unworthy of the procedures unless they are Federal employees, they are exempted from the commoners provisions.
So you get what you vote for, and slowly crushing private small businesses drive more iPhone 5 poor people into the arms of the creators...further lengthening their careers and hold on to controlling the largest Plantations in our nations history, where race, relgion and creed do not factor in. It's the haves ( feds ) and the have nots.

Below is an example of Federal Neptivity.
Elliot Ness helped the Feds Regulate Alchohol by using the power of the Treasury. Now his Grandson hold the reigns. Best to keep it in La Familia.....

Ok
I am not any new God
so I cant fix that.
I still think its more free if we can have lower tax here for small companies here.
You dont have the health care cost we have maybe.
The difference for us is money
So if we sell much .
We can pay high tax
Bear

Depardieu has to do something for his new (second) nationality.
He has to live in Russia for at least 138 days a year.
Not that Putin's regime would think of checking that publicly, and not that it would be too difficult for him to spend some time in the Moskoa upper elite circles each year, but I think his mind is somewhere elsewhere.

He got really fat, sorry for the word, you saw that on tv?
Anyway, he's said to be close to death, because of cancer.
And he must have made up his mind, at some point.

You could at least say he knew to get a last worldwide minute of glory.
It's awarded to him, tho he's not dead yet
It's a movie-like move so to say, and I think of Jimmy's note about the world upside down.

In Dark Ages in Holland (and very probably also in France at the time) the word 'pardieu!' was a curse like Shakespreare.
French 'Dieu' means God. 'With God'.
Today it devellopped to comical 'parbleu!', this for the Dutch guys who know comic figure fat Oli B. Bommel.
But Depardieu made a 'pardieu!', that's for sure.

Not sure about the Russian tax conditions on financial assets now and after his death, but I guess the heirs will profit from the construction

dante wrote:God doesn't exist because Stephen Hawkins said so. And even if he did, Hawkins still pays more taxes than god. God wouldn't pay wheelchair and cylon voice tax for starters.

And since all money comes from the big bang, it proves economists wrong who say you cant get something from nothing.

The whole bang lot came from nothing so there !!!

Einsteins teory is not provning about any big bang.
Actually he is provning the opposite , that time is standing still,
or how to formulate that in English .
So if its so , everything has allways been here , forever back also
Darwins teories is proven not true also , long ago.
So I am not a monkie then
and maybe you schould change the name of your town Darwin ,
to Niceboy Town
Bear

niceboy wrote: Darwins teories is proven not true also , long ago.
So I am not a monkie then

says the monkey...

niceboy wrote:Einsteins teory is not provning about any big bang.
Actually he is provning the opposite , that time is standing still,
or how to formulate that in English .
So if its so , everything has allways been here , forever back also

Forever = for all time = since big bang. There was no time before big bang. Time only exists since big bang.

That is supported by E=mc2.

dante wrote:

niceboy wrote:Einsteins teory is not provning about any big bang.
Actually he is provning the opposite , that time is standing still,
or how to formulate that in English .
So if its so , everything has allways been here , forever back also

Forever = for all time = since big bang. There was no time before big bang. Time only exists since big bang.

Thats what E=MC2 proves.

Its not proving anything and I am not a Monkey
Rudeboy

dante wrote:

niceboy wrote:Einsteins teory is not provning about any big bang.
Actually he is provning the opposite , that time is standing still,
or how to formulate that in English .
So if its so , everything has allways been here , forever back also

Forever = for all time = since big bang. There was no time before big bang. Time only exists since big bang.

That is supported by E=mc2.

well, assuming things that really can't be disproven at the moment, anyway. actually all e=mc2 says is that mass and energy are interchangable.

Dont forget the 'C' though - thats the speed of light, and part of speed is time.

nah, it's just a multiplying factor.
it's only a movement in relationship to an outside observer. in reality, there are NO outside observers, unless you reduce the set being described from the entire universe, to a localized area. that's why the formula is part of the "general theory of RELATIVITY". "relationshup" is the point of "relativity".

Niceboy seemed to imply that the notion of the universe being here forever, and the notion a big bang starting it all seem to be two mutually exclusive scenarios.

Not neccessarily the case if you consider time, energy, mass, space to all be interdependant. If there was no time before the big bang, the universe has been here forever (forever being 'for all time').

From this logic, the 2 scenarios aren't mutually exclusive.

time is merely a dimension, or that's what i'm told. if that's the case, then it's just another axis to plot and the ever changing universe(to the observer with the limited point of view, i.e. can only see in three dimensions) is really complete and static. it's only consciousness moving along that 4th axis that experiences movement. according to the theory, it's all relative....

somehow this affects the insane taxes that they love to levy to maintain rank, fueled by fools expecting others who don't even know them to do everything for them, but that's another pot of coffee...

garyb wrote:nah, it's just a multiplying factor.
it's only a movement in relationship to an outside observer. in reality, there are NO outside observers, unless you reduce the set being described from the entire universe, to a localized area. that's why the formula is part of the "general theory of RELATIVITY". "relationshup" is the point of "relativity".

Thats the point but noone exept some mathematitians on doctoral level has been informed,
that the mathematicaly result of the relativity teory was telling this story.
There is no relativity , and its a long formula.
I am only interested in the result of that.
The result is then that everything is Exactly as it is .
Sometimes its like people want to complicate things ,
because they have been told of this relativity.
I call it confusion , and they want to change everything ,
to an alternativ of everything .
The Evolution teory is an example of that.
Its proven in biochemistry long ago that we are 7 chromosomes apart from monkeys,
and the numbers of chromosomes is impossible to change
We are two chromosomes from being Rabbits , and thats much more close then.
That is not our business though ,
we are just playing music here like Rabbits
Bear

Hey you fellas, that's not dawman's frame of reference

==removed==

well, I hoped the Dutch term box would apply, but that was too optimistic:-)
I ment the different income cathegories taxed by defined taxrates.
Tax bracket?

sorry I was editing while u posting

The word is meaningfull in the context... just... I'm sometimes kind of too odd