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Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:51 am
by niceboy
Mr Arkadin wrote:This is in the Tips and Tricks section. I am still awaiting a tip or a trick that I can use. I haven't seen one yet so it's been reported as "Off Topic". This crap has to end.
We dont want your producer technic either.
Are you reporting the Inventor or your self.
It seems like you want to report the Invention
Its a little bit late it was 1920 th.
Also used by your BBC
Bear

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 6:51 am
by siriusbliss
I've seen NO Tips here - just a lot of tricks.

Nothing worth using.

G

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:36 am
by niceboy
siriusbliss wrote:I've seen NO Tips here - just a lot of tricks.

Nothing worth using.

G
The new article here is about that they give out more info.
Partly this has been secret miltary things I think.
I dont know because I started to do this when I was a little boy.
It was done in many ways in analog semiconductors.
I dont know the EU rules too well about this.
Maybe I am into secret aria in terms of old European rules.
I just have to wait and see .
Its impossible for me to help you then with that now.
The article shows that they desided to show that it is an amplifier,
and not just a stabiliser.
Internet mistake made by them not me.
For me who helpt with also miltary analog Computers ,
I have no problem here . Do what you want.
Its too many interest and our time must be used for recordings now.
If you want more info now , I can give you one other contact later,
Bear

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:09 pm
by dante
niceboy wrote:On Aux is no latency at all because we can go back to the same point.
Without the fbk plugin thats 1 sample.
Are you sure ? I'm getting 15 samples latency on STM2448X mixer Aux, always have.
Aux Feedback 15ms latency
Aux Feedback 15ms latency
aux-feedback.gif (499.06 KiB) Viewed 2952 times
Only ScopeRise mixer made for me by DAS gives me no latency on AUX.

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 8:21 am
by niceboy
You are totally misunderstanding here.
With no latency I ment all channels into the very low level latency STM 2448 Mixer.
Its only 15 samples compared to 415 samples in Maserati.
Not very strong amp and many plugins in serie to be emulated.
In order to make Voice preamp like this we need plugins,
but Platinum Winner Maserati is not part of that competition here anymore.
415 samples is considered far to much and amp is not enough strong as we do here.
Not even close I must say.
Of course we have to count plugin latency in Scope plugins here if you want.
You can see for yourself what we just said .
We do so strong amp on Sologuitar we have used only 55 in the Mixers ,
Thats counted our strongest
Using 100 as gain in mixer will blow the Speakers
We use Aux to make the signals go back to the same point thats the amp function.
All input signals will have the same latency from the mixer.
You showed that its just 15 samples ( less than half 1 millisecond )
1 millisecond is 32 samples
Going to Waves Multi Rack here direct from Aux 1
Ok thats very easy.
I show you why plugins already have lost in the Latency competition against the Scope Mixer.
in terms of drums specially.
pic nr 1
http://www.wavesupport.net/content.aspx?id=2213
Maserati Platinum Winner on top of Latency
4I5 samples on Vocal Enhanser
Therefore its not among Waves Multi Rack live plugins.
the Highest is 64 in 48 khz
We are using plugins with much lower Latency in Scope Mixer ,
ok 15 samples on Mixer
So Scope is a Winner in the Latency competition.
My mixer with Voice Negative Feedback Amplifier,
using Stereo to mono in Aux 1.
pic nr 2
http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php ... 18#p283818
Thats also part of amplifying Stereo to Mono with feedback.
( both signals from Aux 1 to stereo channel 2 is making feedback inside Aux 1 )
Its more than one channel thats making the 15 samples then
( its 4 when using stereo to mono ) when doing feedback into Aux 1
signals into the mixer get the same Latency in the mixer,
all input goes to the Aux and thats the feedback amp.
pic nr 3
http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php ... 65#p292465
We are now using Waves to maximize the gain after the feedback.
Soon we will do it , using only Scope.
Its just one technical issue left to find a solution for here,
but 1 millisecond in Waves Multi Rack is ok.
Plugins is very low dsp based plugins in Waves Multi Rack,
as well as in Scope.
Ps .We are going back into Scope after being in Waves
Happy New Year
Bear

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:50 am
by wouterz
dante wrote:
niceboy wrote:On Aux is no latency at all because we can go back to the same point.
Without the fbk plugin thats 1 sample.
Are you sure ? I'm getting 15 samples latency on STM2448X mixer, always have.
aux-feedback.gif
Only ScopeRise mixer made for me by DAS gives me no latency on AUX.
Is that "Check" device available for download somewhere? I have searched this forum but I could not find it.

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:24 pm
by t_tangent
wouterz wrote:
dante wrote:
niceboy wrote:On Aux is no latency at all because we can go back to the same point.
Without the fbk plugin thats 1 sample.
Are you sure ? I'm getting 15 samples latency on STM2448X mixer, always have.
aux-feedback.gif
Only ScopeRise mixer made for me by DAS gives me no latency on AUX.
Is that "Check" device available for download somewhere? I have searched this forum but I could not find it.
Yes, it was I believe a freebie device kindly created by Thomas of G.O.S.T.

I would pm him and ask if he could send you a copy

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:01 pm
by dante
wouterz wrote:Is that "Check" device available for download somewhere? I have searched this forum but I could not find it.
I have asked Thomas permission to give to you.

Re: Hall of fame feedback

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:07 am
by niceboy
dante wrote:
wouterz wrote:Is that "Check" device available for download somewhere? I have searched this forum but I could not find it.
I have asked Thomas permission to give to you.
I modified here now a little bit.
We putted in links instead here.
http://www.wavesupport.net/content.aspx?id=2213
Here you can see that TDM is having higher latency than Native .
We are using Native in theire Multirack.
Also we modified this one.
http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php ... 18#p283818
Voice Amp ,and here we use the Xited Pre Amp.
Softclip on 40 dsb minus.
Also we found out that the DC Filter works perfect on full gain.
It seems to be standard 45000 mfd cutoff.
Bear