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Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:43 am
by Eanna
So, polyphonic aftertouch is a nice-to-have, but not many synths can interpret that Midi stream...

In that case, the other controller functions in the QuNexus, like position sensitivity, are more useful, and a 'better' reason to consider buying it...

Yeah, it's a cool controller for the money!

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:48 pm
by jksuperstar
I think more synths can interpret poly after touch than support it natively through their own keyboards. I haven't really tried with any scope synths though.

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:47 am
by jhulk
for a good polyat keyboard get a sq80/vfx/eps/eps16+/asr10/sd1/ts10

and you can fetch them way cheaper than that board and have a retro synth to boot

sq80 and asr10 are dearer but you can pick up eps and vfx very cheaply

the gem s2/s3/turbo

have a great poly aftertouch synth keyboard

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:52 am
by jhulk
more synths respond to it than them that can actually send it

all of ensoniqs racks and keyboards that dont have it can receive it

the solaris can receive it

as can most of the emu stuff

and john bowen also included it to work on some of his softs

i dont see a module in modular though or a splitter for poly so that you could add panning for each poly voice differently like you can on the prophet vs

this is what is lacking on the vectron along with the unison switch

oh and the fat ssm filter chip

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 10:44 am
by HUROLURA
There's a solution to get all the features you miss in the Vectron: Solaris keyboard !!!
Except you need a PolyAT keyboard beside it...

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:42 am
by sharc
jhulk wrote:i dont see a module in modular though
Soon :)

...In the meantime, BC Modular already has a KeyP 2 Val module that splits incoming PolyAT messages to the note specified. I admit the module labelling could have been a bit more obvious on that one.

You woud need to fill quite a lot of modular real estate with those modules to do anything useful with them from a PolyAT keyboard though.

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:48 am
by HUROLURA
I thought there was a solution here. :)

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:06 pm
by jhulk
like you said solaris keyboard does it but i need a polyat keyboard to have poly at

my asr10 can do it and wavetable transwave synthesis

with 8 layers and do vector

no res filters but scannable wavetables dont need it

solaris is a great keyboard

but sample support is only one sample and as we know with that the slower the sample is played you loose the transient

not a problem with the solaris as such as you use an element that keeps the transient

now a modular module that can slit the poly signals and set it so that each poly channel can have its own panning structure would be the best

there is already a unison module in the mod4

with that you could acomplish so much more and when multisample support in a single sample osc or a container osc like sfz or sf2 which have multi velocity layers from one sample playback module like in synth edit or synthmaker would make a whole new spectrum of synths available

its a pity that fatar did not licence the polyat from ensoniq as they use the fatar keys and keybed but the coil board pcbs and control circuits were designed by ensoniq and they dont suffer from dirty contacts as they work from magnetic fields

but having a asr10 for sampling and triggering solaris 5 for scope is great and i get the best of both and £3500 for a delivered solaris is out of my scope with out selling some of my other synths to get but loathed to sell as i like them to much being my waldorf wave with shot hydrolics and my matrix12

and the memorymoog i could sell a bunch of my other synths but would have to sell several of them to do it and i have so many keepers

may be if i start to sell enough of my pro sample banks then a solaris will definetly be on the cards of synth to get and keep

but my 2 scope systems will have todo for know

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:44 pm
by sharc
jhulk wrote:now a modular module that can slit the poly signals and set it so that each poly channel can have its own panning structure would be the best
That's the problem with using BC's KeyP 2 Val - It gives you a seperate control for each key you define.

The easiest solution is to have a PolyAT signal at source (MVC) and connect that to a polyphonic panner module. I'm working on it.

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:16 pm
by jhulk
yes a new mvc with the polyat reciever in

and a poly spliter so that you can split all poly channels to seperate outs

with that type of system you could do poly evolver emulation which has 4 note poly and each can do chord or have there own sequence on

would be very good

like having a matrix 12 in software as its 12voice poly and you can have a 12 voice monophonic synth sound with each voice having its own settings

you can get very fat sounds this way

looking forward to it sharc the poly filter is close to the types of filter types the matrix 12 uses

and having 2 osc per voice with cem osc you can use the mod4 p5 osc as they use the same type

one of the reasons i have always kept the matrix 12 with its direct 12 mono outputs as layering patches is great

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:26 pm
by sharc
jhulk wrote:and a poly spliter so that you can split all poly channels to seperate outs
I think this would probably be best done before the MVC stage ...possibly even as a device outside modular.

Ideally you'd want a MIDI splitter device with a MIDI input and 16 midi outs. Poly count would be set between 1-16 on the slpitter (based on number of devices in use) as well as note priority and midi channel of each out. You could then connect it up to whatever devices you like with each one 'stealing' a voice.

If anyone can remind me if this has already been done, please jump in...

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:27 am
by jksuperstar
A poly switch to select a different input for each voice would be a good compliment to the poly out :)

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:11 pm
by dawman
This little treat looks really sweet, I have pre paid much more than that beofre so here we go again. Thanks Sharc. You are always a step ahead... :wink:

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 4:36 pm
by Fluxpod
sharc wrote:
Fluxpod wrote:I had Poly AT with the Snyderphonics Manta till last week.Sold it because jeff has no timeframe for win(mostly just mac mac mac nag nag nag....).I am really looking forward to this. :)

Poly at is a feature that is so undervalued...and hard to implement.Also very costy with standart keybeds.
I like the look of those. How was it to play?

a quick google also revealed this... http://www.alphasphere.com/ :lol: ...I shouldn't laugh :P
It was Awsome to play.And the Max patches and Integration were very good.Too bad the windows side was neglected.Will try the Qunexus!

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:30 am
by dawman
I got one.
Talk is April, but they have problems with their other units and a forum full of whiners so I don't see these guys as a trusted developer, but rather folks who try and make stuff nobody else does.
150 USD is a few hours work, I can risk it...
Especially if Sharcs' got something up his sleeve.

Fits on my right hand side of Privia perfectly.

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:58 am
by sharc
dawman wrote:Especially if Sharcs' got something up his sleeve.
Sorry to disappoint J, but I don't have anything planned for the QuNexus other than to maybe buy one at some point.

There was no ulterior motive for me posting about this. It caught my eye and I thought I'd share. Nothing more.

That said, if I get my hands on it and and I'm inspired to do anything for Scope as result, you'll be the first to know :wink:

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:42 am
by Eanna
Looks like another Midi controller supporting Polyphonic Aftertouch was announced at NAMM 2013:

http://www.cme-pro.com/en/product-detai ... duct_id=41

Re: QuNexus Smart Sensor Keyboard Controller

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:00 pm
by sharc
Eanna wrote:Looks like another Midi controller supporting Polyphonic Aftertouch was announced at NAMM 2013:

http://www.cme-pro.com/en/product-detai ... duct_id=41
Nice looks and at $99 is reasonably priced.

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Would have been nice to see it with real keys and wheels though even if it cost double.

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