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garyb wrote: in this 500 year graph, you can see the little ice age as a dip between 200 and 400 years ago or so. the dip has some warm period in it and some very cold ones too. in the last 100 years, there IS a steady rise, but so far in the last 500 years, the warmest time was 400 years ago! it was freaking hot then! explain that in relation to modern use of petroleum and electricity and the humans' carbon footprint! explain it or shut up about it and admit you're too ignorant to say anything one way or the other.

This is the bit of the post where braincell's blind spot always kicks in, so I thought I'd highlight it.

braincell wrote:Some of you guys didn't read the NASA statement about global warming. They said it's "undeniable" yet you continue to argue. There haven't been any so called "whistle blowers" at NASA. That is just purely ridiculous speculation based on rumors and hearsay. If you are waiting for whistle blowers to come out good luck with that. That aint gonna happen because there aren't any with an iota of credibility.

Credibility is at stake when NASA even acknowledged that many of their monitoring stations were turned off, and many were parked on the side of buildings near radiant parking lots and air conditioners. They've been called to the carpet.

You're preference is to blindly follow fake scientist shills that were brought in to gain funding from oil companies and polluters, get caught in a lie using contrived, hacked-up data, and then hire their own overseers to confirm 'undeniably' that their fucked up data was legitimate.

You've denied even looking at all the other data, and turn your head at the Republicrat cap-n-trade agenda that has nothing to do with fixing the climate, and all about cashing out on yet another Enron-esque shim-sham operation.

Go ahead and keep supporting liars.

Interesting oil canvas of Ursula Andress from an old time fav 007 flick...

Greg, I am sure you don't drink fluoridated water or eat iodized salt because you are one of the paranoid conspiracy people.

Jimmy, don't bother posting because I don't read any of your posts. You have proven yourself to be a totally worthless piece of shit to me and everyone else in this world.

siriusbliss wrote:

braincell wrote:Some of you guys didn't read the NASA statement about global warming. They said it's "undeniable" yet you continue to argue. There haven't been any so called "whistle blowers" at NASA. That is just purely ridiculous speculation based on rumors and hearsay. If you are waiting for whistle blowers to come out good luck with that. That aint gonna happen because there aren't any with an iota of credibility.

Credibility is at stake when NASA even acknowledged that many of their monitoring stations were turned off, and many were parked on the side of buildings near radiant parking lots and air conditioners. They've been called to the carpet.

You're preference is to blindly follow fake scientist shills that were brought in to gain funding from oil companies and polluters, get caught in a lie using contrived, hacked-up data, and then hire their own overseers to confirm 'undeniably' that their fucked up data was legitimate.

You've denied even looking at all the other data, and turn your head at the Republicrat cap-n-trade agenda that has nothing to do with fixing the climate, and all about cashing out on yet another Enron-esque shim-sham operation.

Go ahead and keep supporting liars.

garyb wrote: in this 500 year graph, you can see the little ice age as a dip between 200 and 400 years ago or so. the dip has some warm period in it and some very cold ones too. in the last 100 years, there IS a steady rise, but so far in the last 500 years, the warmest time was 400 years ago! it was freaking hot then! explain that in relation to modern use of petroleum and electricity and the humans' carbon footprint! explain it or shut up about it and admit you're too ignorant to say anything one way or the other.

This is the bit of the post where braincell's blind spot always kicks in, so I thought I'd highlight it again.

braincell wrote:Greg, I am sure you don't drink fluoridated water or eat iodized salt because you are one of the paranoid conspiracy people

Only in your angry mind. Not true, but if that's what you believe, and it makes you feel better, then that's your problem.

lots of thrashing about bc, but not one relevant answer to even one of my questions. of course, i'm not satisfied until all of them are answered in a rational, logical manner.

beautiful plumage. he must be pining for the fjords...

No, the fjords have undeniably dried up by now.....

boy, it sure was hot 400 years ago. i'll bet there was no ice anywhere in the world and the entire coastline was under water!

Getting some good broccoli, broadbeans & snowpeas here in the backyard. Just thought y'all would like to know

Even Moscow & Kiew have 38 degrees Celsius. But ho cares? Profit stands well above humanity and only the richest will survive.

The Solar Tsunami is headed for Earth.
But have no fear the Defender of the People is going to have The Russians fly us into Space and re adjust the Array of Reflectors to repel the deadly wave of radiation. This will allow NASA time to build a Mosque next to Cape Kennedy as a sign of NASA's new directive to reach out to the Muslim Nations which pay our leaders their salaries and contributions to their Presidential Libraries once they retire.
Obama will return a hero, and only then will all of Humanity unite for a global taxation to lower the Planets' tempurature.
However there is a chance of failure, its a slim margin. But they can blame Bush for using outsourced parts in the massive reflector array.

NOAA said it best. Those who disagree are just wasting our time with this nonsense because you guys aren't scientists or credible reporters. That means what you say on this matter is worthless bullshit. Talk about something you know about for a change.

yeah, that's bullshit.
science means that disagreements are dealt with in a rational, reasonable way, not through rhetoric.

the NOAA is like NASA. there are plenty of good honest people there, but it's also a political operation at the top. there are many there who have no scruples. this is undeniable based on the many scandals that have been in the regular news in the last 20 years.

but back to my REASONABLE questions! answer these rationally if your not not just a bag of manure yourself!


yes, it's undeniable that the earth is warming. did you see in that 400,000 year graph that the earth gets warm and cold cyclicly? did you see that it has been much warmer than now many times? do you understand what happens when an ice age, mini or otherwise, ends?



in this 500 year graph, you can see the little ice age as a dip between 200 and 400 years ago or so. the dip has some warmer periods in it and some very cold ones too. in the last 100 years, there IS a steady rise, but so far in the last 500 years, the warmest time was 400 years ago! it was freaking hot then! explain that in relation to modern use of petroleum and electricity and the humans' carbon footprint! explain it or shut up about it and admit you're too ignorant to say anything one way or the other.

It is a fact that the earth was even more hot in the middle ages. And funny enough it was at about the same time there was alot of solar activity. And we have the same kind of solar activity today, and the same global warming...
I am All in for protecting the environment, believe me... But when you Can get "green Coca cola" and green cellphones, something has to be really wrong. The big companies are just making money ón our worst fears, and that is just sick!!!

Braincell i dont believe that its All black and white when it comes to global Warming. Of course we all contribute to global Warming to some extend, but there is ALOT of money to be earned because of fear!

..and we're all guilty including me coz I drive a car to work. Maybe if I get a hybrid car next time and replace my studio rack/power consumption footprint with an XITE-1 my conscience will be clearer (if only I can sell that one to the mrs...).

Maybe we should lobby S|C to release a green coloured XITE....

hybrids are dirtier than regular engines over their entire life, anyway.

I'm going to only eat green bell peppers and green tomatoes so I poop green from now on....