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Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:24 pm
by garyb
you can look at manufacture dates, but if the card has a z-link, Plus or Classic20 i/o plate, it's almost certainly a 2nd gen card. if iut has a 24ADAT or was converted from a 24ADAT plate, then it's almost certainly a 1st gen card.

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:32 pm
by next to nothing
And, if i am not mistaken, all 14DSP cards are second gen?

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:42 pm
by garyb
yes, that's correct!

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:26 am
by ehasting
If only using scope as external hardware.. Not using asio drivers, will 1gen board have higher latency then pulsar2?

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:09 pm
by garyb
if it's by itself, yes!

but latency only applies to sequencers and the like. all Scope cards, regardless of age are realtime in stand alone mode.

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:01 am
by ehasting
Thank you!

Great to know!

What could be nice is to get screenshot (both sides) of both 14-dsp and 15-dsp so we can see the different. I have asked google for such, but he is not giving me any proper picture of 2gen card on the back! :)


Rgs
Egil

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:08 am
by Fluxpod
Difference is easy to spot.Missing dsp on the upper side of the card.

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:18 am
by ehasting
Thanks a lot!! that means basically all picture out on google is actually the 1.gen card.. even its adds. for 2.gen :D
Now i know that i am about to get a 1.gen card :P

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:22 am
by hewlet
I have both version, they look identical, but the 15 DSP card have 1 extra DSP chip and 2xram on both side.

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:00 am
by sethius
Thanks a lot for that..!!

..and just for clarification, gen 1 cards behave like gen 2 cards (ULLI) if there is a gen 2 card in the system?

..if so, will the IO on the gen 1 cards behave like gen 2 cards as well (ULLI)?

Cheers.

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:27 am
by garyb
yes, if there is a gen 2 card, then the system will do low latency(down to 2-3ms, i use 4ms).

the gen 1 card will decrease avaialble pci resources.....

Re: 14 DSP -vs- 15 DSP system

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 8:55 am
by next to nothing
I would really recommend to keep them all 2.gen. the extra cash is worth it.