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stardust wrote:The upgrade fee at Steinberg is 159 Euro.

To upgrade from what?

braincell wrote:I had a problem with Cubase until Cubase SX. That is when it started to get good for me.

i found the opposite. SX was when it started getting bad for me.

Len, if SX2 does what you want it to do like it does for me, why upgrade

This is what i'm getting from reading the posts here. I don't need no more routing or processing. I don't need no mind control. I just want faster, stabler, and from what I can tell, that's the computer I just ordered. I get enough of this upgrade BS at work. Interesting that MS made their Office 2007 release not backward compatible as usual, but this time in a way that makes it impossible to use some key features in browsers (without buying their expensive software layer to do that, that is). I like some MS products, Excel by itself, SQL server by itself, C# by itself (as long as you realize it's a compromise and really just the equivalent of VB), but their server software in general is a Chamber of Horrors. Anyone ever hear of SSIS? I see a LOT of time wasted in any office over stupid computer issues like this, but heck, they pay me to fix it.

Mr Arkadin wrote:

braincell wrote:I had a problem with Cubase until Cubase SX. That is when it started to get good for me.

i found the opposite. SX was when it started getting bad for me.

VST was the dogs, but ultimately killed more than the hardware market; It killed Cubase development as well (from a certain perspective).

Liquid Len wrote:Len, if SX2 does what you want it to do like it does for me, why upgrade

This is what i'm getting from reading the posts here. I don't need no more routing or processing. I don't need no mind control.

It's your choice. It certainly sounds like you don't need SX4 unless you're having 'showstopping' problems with SX2 with regards to what you need it to do.

braincell wrote:It's like buying a new computer. They get a little better every year so if you wait 5 years there is a big difference. I had a problem with Cubase until Cubase SX. That is when it started to get good for me.[...]

It's been the opposite with me, I didn't upgrade to any SX version cuz I never liked the interface or the fact that a lot of things that I've been used to with VST3.7 and 5.1 for many years were put upside down in SX. So I stayed at VST5.1 until just a while ago, then I thought to upgrade to Cubase 4. ha-ha, nice try. Steinberg did not offer any deal for VST users anymore. Buy it all new or don't, it was. No matter I payed 1400 marks (nearly 700 eus) for my VST back some years. Screw them!
Thing is, Magix offered a decent crossgrade deal to me, Sam 10 at just about half the price, for the fact I switched from VST to their product. Whaddaya say? Cool deal! And I don't regret switching away from Cubase for my studio purpose (focus on multitracking) as Sam performs _brilliantly_ there. I kept my VST5.1 for the external midi so far, but I bet it's just a matter of time until sam will offer the better midi as well. No going back to Steinberg!

Well, I was more than happy with my VST 32/5.1. I knew it well. I could work quickly with it. I had no desire to upgrade.
However, along came the chance of Omnisphere upgrade from Atmosphere at a great price and at the same time a great deal on East West choirs.
Neither would run on VST 5.1.

So I took the plunge and upgraded to Cubase 4.
It's a big learning curve for me but I can already see that it's much better and I'm getting into it now.
I've lost a few features that I used to love in 5.1, plus you can't use DXi effects etc, but on the whole I would say that it was the right choice to finally upgrade.

It may be my aging ears, but I would say that the sound engine and output quality is much better (less muddy) than 5.1

Hope that helps.