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Awe..... where did your quote disappear to Warp?

In a sick & twisted way it was great quote though... the lobbyists were closing in if they read that.

well, I think apple is free to do whatever it wishes. It is a fact that they are way ahead of the game.. in their own direction. The problem is that other cellphone manufacturers are following suite, lining up at Apple's ticket booth, to purchase tickets to the cellphone game! How dumb is that. Doesn't anyone care to give alternative ideas?

Google phone is an alternative... but didn't they understand that perhaps they should PR the thing to make it a sensational release? The phone looks horrible too.

I just don't understand. I don't think iPhone is ground breaking at all. It's hard for iPhone to stand out in Japan or Korea because apps and all the goodies are built into the platform by the carriers. But why no manufacturer in the US tries to compete with iPhone with another ORIGINAL idea, just amazes me. I thought these companies were competitive.

Like Samsung.. they ship awesome phones to Japan, but for some reason, those never reach the US, even though they're 3G. I guess it's because their software won't work US carrier's platform? I really don't understand why the cellphone market is so strange. Again, I just want a good phone. I know they're out there, but for us in US, it's iPhone 'till you start having nightmares about it. (or buy one)

The G1 has a real keyboard. Too bad they forgot audio! I'm sure that will be included in future versions. Anyway I hate Apple. I could care less how pretty it looks. The Google phone will be free eventually. Then Apple will just add more colors and brag about it as if that is a cool new feature.

kensuguro wrote: But why no manufacturer in the US tries to compete with iPhone with another ORIGINAL idea, just amazes me. I thought these companies were competitive.

I think the overshadowing problem (and answer to your question) is that to these kind of businesses and unfortunately most other businesses as well, PROFIT is God, not innovation and the good idea. The people driving the business couldn't care less what they were selling, as long as it sells.

But that's the thing.. if profit is the deciding factor, why would you copy, instead of try to defeat apple.. unless you just accept the fact that you will never ever defeat it? Or perhaps nobody has the budget to compete with Apple. Sad.

Brain-> The world cares how pretty it looks. And if the phone does well globally, you'll get more of it. Apple is now the 3rd biggest cellphone manufacturer in the world, in a matter of just over a year after entering the market! To compete with that, google needs to get their design department (or actually, HTC) straight.

It's a fad.

ya, which has to change.. or the apps are going to suffer. Or at least head downhill in terms of quality like flash online games. (regurgitation of classic games with a bunch of advertisement on it)

I don't quite get why google isn't pushing the gphone too much.. I mean, there is hype, but not really a spectacle. As in, I know plenty of people who don't know of its existence. Maybe it's just targeted for the tech crowd? Not sure. Google, of all companies, should have been capable of pulling off one heck of a PR campaign.

It's not the style of Google to push things. That is what Apple does. Google doesn't need to do that. It will grow slowly but surely; besides, Google doesn't make phones, only the OS.

stardust wrote:...........................as long as ipod pays the bill.

Well, thats not correct.

Ipod sales only contributed 14.2% of Apple’s total revenue in Q4. And will continue to decline. Iphone and MAC sales accounted for 31% and 40.09% of total revenue in Q4.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08 ... _2008.html
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13316

But many of your statements in that post are false - You can do better than that, Stardust

I also think two handed operation phones are inefficient. blackberry can be operated (as long as you don't need to type) with one hand, because the interaction area is limited (trackball). Flip phones too, since your interaction is limited to the lower half. (where your thum can reach) All big screen touch interface phones will need to be handled with two hands most of the time. I guess it can be addressed with software...
It's the thumb I'm tellin' ya... two hand operation phones never stay around for long..

Actually I was very surprised when I saw people using blackberries when I came to the US.. they were so big and people were typing with two hands! But, quickly came to realize that typing english on the number keys doesn't work so well, it was the mini qwerty keyboard that caused the phones to become ridiculously large. Japanese on number keys is surprisingly efficient. Japanese alphabets are naturally broken to a 10x5 grid, all you have to do is input the coordinates. 11 (a), 12 (i), 85(yo), like that. And the phone converts it to kanji characters. And people have learned it so well, it's like typing on the qwerty, only half the pople in Japan are slower on qwerty. Blackberry is huge when I hold it, feels like I'm holding a tiny book.. but not so bad on a normal sized (healthy, not obese) American I guess.

But anyway, english just has to be on qwerty or else it's impossible. Though, I'm not even sure many adults use text message in the US. I txt my friends a lot, and they rarely write back. Txt message infrastructure is also sort of weak, resulting in messages not going through, extreme (several days) delay, etc.. which makes them unpredictable. Or maybe I just don't have many friends. haha.

It's called the thumb generation in Japan.

Yes, mostly just kids text message, also unless you have unlimited messages the cost is ridiculous. It's stupid that they charge for it anyway because it uses so much less data than voice does. I never text anyone's phone because I find they usually don't reply. I think they don't know how to. Most of the people my age are ignorant about technology. It's not real to them. I know people who use Yahoo for email and don't know how stupid it makes them look.

stupit people.

tetxtin is kool.

sez master Yoda:

where lead you it WILL. it WILL....