"communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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Hi,

I have maybe the same issue. Three pulsar II boards, connected with two STDM harnesses and randomly connection errors and nearly every time I try to quit scope application (before I want to shut down my Pc) the PC freezes (crash).
It's so frustrating but does anybody have news in this issue ?

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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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sure, sporadic issues are the best :(
and you are right. I cleaned the contacts several times, I changes the cables, I assambled new ones, I reinstalled the complete scope system, I wasted the complete PC and used the components based on recommendations in this forum..... it seems to will be a never ending story

I tried the fix to use only one stdm harness instead of two but after that I got so many more dsp reorganisation issues that I cannot say if it hides the basic issue or if it was fixed.

Is there anybody who has an idea to try additionally ? Is it maybe a side effect of the software ?
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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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in my case,
i changed motherboard cause of problems running 3 cards, i still have that motherboard , but just Luna II installed, so no problems with that,
i had problems running 3 cards, even the chipset is the same, cpu slot, almost identical, just other company and problems gonne away,

I had problems with Asus P4C800Deluxe and Intel 865PERL (don't have it anymore), running 3 cards (2 x Pulsar XTC and Luna II), tried everything possible,
after using Scope platform with Cubase, sequencer soon stops and everything freezes, sometimes blue screen appears when using with Modular in Scope,
i guess i had luck, cause then i bought another motherboard Abit IC7 (the same chipset like Asus) and after then works really nice,

i do have that computer with 3 cards just for making music, no internet connection (cards), a lot of services disabled, no other cards installed, really raw setup,
Winxp, Standard PC mode, every card on different IRQ, Scope 4.5 ...

i'm sure every setup is different and my problems could or could not help to other users, but like i said, other motherboard makes my music setup very solid, so i can
make music and not repairing windows and similar :)


sometimes i get error messages like DSP optimization or similar, but that only happens if i add large modules into scope project and depends which ones, but after doing optimization or just restaring Scope helps and i can load modules in DSP meter to the end ...






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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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@mcm060769

Is it only causing trouble when using 3 cards?? Have you tried any combination of two cards??

I had trouble using 3x scope pro's. Right now im using 2x scope pro and 1x pulsar II xtc, and everything runs smoothly. No problems whatsoever (except for some reloading of dsp's sometimes, but no freezing and/or bluescreens/rebooting)

I will send my other scope pro for repair in a few weeks, although im still not sure if it's really broken... I know it's very frustrating... Ive been configuring my scope/pc for 2.5 months till i found using 2x scope/1x pulsarII "solved" my problems??

What pc specs?? mobo/processor??
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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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@fldox
I started years ago with a pulsar 4 dsp. Later I wanted to expand the power of the system and bought an additional 6 dsp card. Communication problems started with this configuration in 2004 and I read forums, asked the creamware support and so on and everything they said was: check your/change your cable harnesses and clean up the contacts of the boards. The used MOBO I never remember. Because nothing helped in the past I sold the 4 DSP card and replace it with another used 6 dsp card. Hoping the communication issue was based on incompatibility between old and new generation cards. Unfortunately the problems came back. I planned to route my external synts per scope to my mac and decided to buy an additional 6dsp card and to waste the untill than for pulsar cards used pc and to buy a MOBO recommended in this forum. With every step of optimisation the system performance and stability has been growing up to the rest of issues I stated here.

@RP_001
In summary:
No, it depends not on the number or type of boards. No doubt if I use three or two or mixed up with older boards.
I tried over the past yeas three different MOBOS and in sum 5 different dsp cards (3x 6dsp that is my actual set and 2 aditional 4dsp but never more than 3 cards together).
Actual I use a P5P800 Asus together with a P4 3GHZ and 1GByte RAM. The freeze issue comes only up on my actual MODO when closing scope application so far I remenber right.
Three days ago I change the cables and no communication error so far until today starting the system.
If I wiggle the connectors and restart the scoe application it will work for a couple of hours.
A friend told me about a silver coating liquid. Is it possible to coat the board contacts new or would this lead into corrupt contact quality ?

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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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RP_001 wrote:Im pretty sure that all of my 3 cards are type II. Two of them have Production date of 2000. The other one from 2006.
I always thought type II cards were produced since 2002, weren't they?
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Re: "communication errors" with multiple scope boards..

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my cards have te following revisions/production dates:

pulser II 12/2002
pulsar V2.01 04/2001
pulsar V2.01 12/2000

Are these cards incompatible ? Have had anybody experiences with re-coating the stdm board contacts (see my question above) ?
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