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Re: Predator I ( Sorry.....I meant terminator. )

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:11 am
by garyb
unless there's mercury in the vaccine that you got as a baby abd young child or if there's flouride in the water, or....

sure, that's how a human sacrifice works, the whole "free will" thing. when sacrificing a human(according to A. Crowley), it's necessary to tell the person what you're doing to him, to allow him a chance to say "no". that way you can blame him for his murder and take power from the "sacred ritual".

i like to compare it to an ox that you own that you use to plow the fields. it's as if as an owner, you are mean and you break the beast's legs for fun and then beat the animal for being incapable of pulling a plow.

Re: Predator I ( Sorry.....I meant terminator. )

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:01 am
by Tau
Stardust - I believe you are right, many could get out, but don't really want to, while others are honestly trying, but have no idea of the means used in their imprisionment. It's like when people talk about drugs, and how one should stay "sober" to "validate experience". Well, if my water is drugged, the food is poisoned and the air polluted, if I am constantly fed lies and being manipulated in my ideas, can I say that I am sober if I don't do drugs? Or is this a case where others decide how to drug me? ;)

One (old) idea to overcome hollywood and tv dictatorship is to READ BOOKS! They are not limited in "run-time", and allow you to reach closer to the author, and interactively participate with your mind in the unfolding of the story. The best special FX can be had when reading books, and you can select the soundtrack to your liking! It's also a good way to practice concentration and attention.

I like watching a movie, but I get more from books. Maybe it's not as "strong" an experience, in terms of emotional response, but it's far more outreaching.

I've been trying hard to convince my teenage nephews to read books, but it's hard to explain how that can be much more interesting than playing PS3 or watching videos all the time. I remember reading the "lord of the rings" series when I was younger, and what I imagined while reading was so different from the movie (even though I liked the film version) - the characters, the different races of beings, the settings... Like I said, I liked the movie, but I was very happy to have read the book before, and taking my own journey through the middle earth before I was force-fed faces and clothes and accents - know what I mean? But it would be difficult to convince a kid these days to pick it up and begin a months-long effort of reading a single story! And, seeing it like that, making the movie was a necessary move to show the new generation what the Tolkien universe is about, but, even though they made 3 long movies, there's still a lot left out.

And another thing, for instance, I like Sci-Fi a lot. My favourite author is, by large, Philip K. Dick, and I have many of his books, either in English, or translated to portuguese, most of these being old editions from the late 70's and 80's. I went to a bookstore the other day, and found there's a new edition of "The 3 stigmata of Palmer Eldritch", which, together with UBIK and VALIS was one of my faves.I bought it, started to read, went back to the old one I have and... well it's not the same anymore. The translation is different, the whole story sounds different too, not just from the english original, but also from the earlier translation, which was, in my opinion, far more comprehensive, and ambiguous, in a good way. What are we doing to our culture ????

Oh well, another very long post. Sorry for that, I like talking to you...

Much peace,

T

Re: Predator I ( Sorry.....I meant terminator. )

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:44 am
by Tau
stardust wrote:Philip K Dick is my favorite as well in that genre.
A true visionaire.

Many good movies are based on his books:

Total Recall
Minority report
Blade Runner
Screamers

A brilliant mind.
Also "A scanner darkly" - an excellent adaptation by Richard Linklater (and Soderbergh too, I believe?), in faux-animation style, and "Paycheck", by John Woo, that is ruined by way too many special fx and action sequences.

And "Next", by Lee Tamahori, which is a wonderful, surprising film. I never read the original to that one, but the film, even being classified as a romance/action movie is pretty good. Nicholas Cage stars in that.

It's funny to see how the Sci-Fi genre has declined through the 90's and now is so feeble. I guess nobody expected progress to be so slow, and we'd still be in this cave after the year 2000. In a way, reality is now stranger than fiction, isn't it? I mean, the best Sci-Fi you can read right now is just browsing the web for so-called "conspiracy theories" ;) Not that I think that it's all fiction, some of it is perfectly clear to me. But if you take PKD as an example, his fictional stories seem to be very close to some realities I perceive, and it still is a good way to pass on ideas and data without having a bunch of skeptics falling over you. And without forcing the receiver to see things that are not there, but instead, to admit the possibility and find out what is really happening "out there".

Boris Vian opened one of his books with this sentence: "This is a true story. I can be sure of that, as I made it all up myself."

Cheers,

T