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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 4:37 pm
by garyb
Cochise wrote:Just, I'm wondering what's making you think about alarmism used as a means to institute global taxes and central control.
read the report to the Club of Rome called "the First Global Revolution". in it, they explicitly say this.
membership roster of the Club of Rome:
http://www.clubofrome.org/members/membe ... hip=Active
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:15 pm
by siriusbliss
Huge solar storms are erupting right now (
http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/) and there are reports of a huge volcano rumbling in Antarctica
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1810- which some scientists now think is the real reason for ice melts..
So, there's no global warming OR cooling, just major adjustments and changes in the Earth's weather systems. All must return to balance.
Nevertheless, the globalist pranksters out there will keep trying to tax us for the air we breath, and the water we drink, while also forcing the increased cost of food due to 'cost of oil', or that boondoggle called ethanol.
Greg
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:20 pm
by garyb
ahhh, the sun's back at it...
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:34 am
by Cochise
As the incurable idealist I am, I refuse to consider the corruption as totally generalized.
There's other people around having healthy idealism above profit in their values scale.
Could even be unexpected ones.
So control = x% good control + y% corrupted control; then more control = more good control + more corrupted.
Nevertheless more corruption = more spread informations about the corruption itself, then more probability that informations leaks out.
Though I also think it could be good that people start trying their best to make itself sort control and act accordingly, without let to be fooled (increased spread of wise critical sense is still needed).
Sorry, I wasn't able to find the report you point out...
What's that Club of Rome? What's its weight?
Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:17 pm
by garyb
the report is a book. it's expensive, but you can find it.
this is what the Club says about itself:
The Club of Rome is a global think tank and centre of innovation and initiative.
As a non-profit, non govermental organisation (NGO), it brings together scientists, economists, businessmen, international high civil servants, heads of state and former heads of state from all five continents who are convinced that the future of humankind is not determined once and for all and that each human being can contribute to the improvement of our societies.
and
The Club of Rome’s mission is to act as a global catalyst of change that is free of any political, ideological or business interest.
The Club of Rome contributes to the solution of what it calls the world problematique, the complex set of the most crucial problems – political, social, economic, technological, environmental, psychological and cultural - facing humanity
this is what the dictionary says about the word catalyst:
1. Chemistry A substance, usually used in small amounts relative to the reactants, that modifies and increases the rate of a reaction without being consumed in the process.
2. One that precipitates a process or event, especially without being involved in or changed by the consequences:
the longtime president of the club was H.R.H. Prince El Hassan bin Talal from the Majlis El Hassan Royal Palace Amman Jordan(!?!)
you are optimistic because you are a good person and can't imagine what it's like to be a bad person. if you were a bad person, where would be a better place to work than in control? that's why government and police departments have a higher percentage of bad people than other occupations.
here's a site of some of the people whose job it is to control your thinking:
http://www.scl.cc/home.php
here's what scl says about themselves:
Strategic communication differs from orthodox commercial communication (such as advertising, public relations, etc.) in that it concentrates on the behavioural outcome of the communication not just concepts such as brand awareness.
For example, commercial advertising might encourage an audience to hold very favourable attitudes about a Ferrari, but that does not necessarily lead to all those with a favourable attitude buying a Ferrari. Conversely, cigarette smokers may be fully aware of the dangers associated with smoking, but will carry on anyway.
Broadly speaking, commercial communication is measured by attitudinal results (considering one brand better than another) and strategic communication is measured by results (changes in actions).
SCL uses the BDI methodology, which is the most powerful communication methodology to influence group behaviour.
Even though much greater effort and resources must be applied at the front end (as compared to commercial advertising), the resultant outcomes are far more effective and predictable.
Consequently, the SCl solutions are used primarily where the communication outcomes are critical.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:42 am
by Cochise
Interesting. Why they choose the name Club of Rome?
About CSL: I guess they have been (and probably are) in the need of unaware people for experimenting with their techniques...
(for sure they can't use guinea pigs for that)
If I let my mind to go on about, it will come out with some ideas suitable for the plot of a film. A quite scary one indeed.
Also wondering if those techniques are powerful enough to be effective even with aware people. For sure they can fool a lot.
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:19 pm
by garyb
"club of rome" because it was formed in rome and this is still the roman empire(with a new face). they are a think tank that works for the bilderburgers..
yes, their techniques often work on the aware.......the point is to move the entire herd, not individuals...