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Look man, I'm not gonna argue with someone so determined to believe in something. But out here in the real world, the vast majority of people find it unacceptable to even start a 2nd application like Scope (you do know what Scope is, right? Or did you find this thread on Google and join the forum to set the world to rights.... ). So something like Linux where you have to start another app for a metronome is not really gonna cut the mustard for many.

I didn't say that Linux is evil and it should be banned, I just said it wasn't going to become a widely-accepted platfom for music anytime soon. We could argue until the cows come home but it still won't change that simple fact.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were discussing beliefs. But, you're absolutely right. The music industry is clearly not the right place for anyone to try to do anything differently.

Linux works well for the Muse Receptor as it allows better load templates and seems to change presets a little faster than the other 2 bull shit options we use.
But the downside is waiting forever to have apps " Receptorized. "
I would love a Linux based hardware sampler w/ SSD's and limitless RAM.....
But the rebellious Linux folks just don't seem to be interested in apps for stage use.
So I am stuck with Windoze stripped down to a dozen lines of code that never crashes....
Why would I want anything different..?
Is there some major advantages that the Music industry might be missing..?
I don't know but I'd love to hear about it.
I am going to CES everyday and won't miss the babes there on Friday.....pretty remarkable, will there be a Linux Booth? Maybe some rebellious Linux babes
....?

SR1 - It seems ideological because you seem to take it pretty personally, and seem to have absolutely no empathy for what everyone in this thread, ostensibly all of them musicians, are saying. Instead you're accusing them of being lazy and uncreative. Nice one If this is the attitude of all Linux programmers, I'm not at all surprised that the applications are so inferior.

Well in many ways you're right about the music industry, but IMHO that's not really a valid statement in this case. Why should anyone use something that's functionally inferior, offers no clear advantage (other than maybe some kind of grand utopian open source ideology) and requires complex workarounds and trawling through arcane forums for solutions? Why should a musician have to compile apps? Isn't this the job of the programmer?

How is this progression? Why do something differently if it wastes more time and is less efficient? How does this improve the life of a musician trying to get something done in an industry where it's harder than ever to earn money to survive? There are many creative things musicians can do with their time, things that are genuinely new, progressive and interesting (Monomes, Max/MSP, building custom controllers - just a few examples)

There's more than enough to learn with just a well-functioning sequencer and some complex plugins. Put even more pointless and complex variables into this mix and it's getting unusable. Most sane people would rather pay a programmer to write something really good that is an efficient, well-integrated and logical solution. I know a lot of programmers, and I'd like them to have an income It works out pretty well both ways in the reality we live in, which I'm not defending - just accepting it for what it is... reality.

Again, I'm not dissing Linux as a platform for all uses. It has good uses for custom development implementations, embedded situations, low-cost business applications and so on.

+1

Most people could be using Ubuntu and be just as happy as Windows or Apple but for music? I don't think so! Rosegarden sucks! And you need hardware such as a decent high performance sound card and midi interface.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa_o6hmJg3Q - video on Mixbus, based on Ardour.

Before some start thinking Linux isn't used for proper productions ;p

It looks like Cubase. I bet their hardware sounds better.

at0m wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa_o6hmJg3Q - video on Mixbus, based on Ardour.

Before some start thinking Linux isn't used for proper productions ;p

good to know. perhaps Linux will be a real choice soon...

XITE-1/4LIVE wrote:I am going to CES everyday and won't miss the babes there on Friday.....pretty remarkable, will there be a Linux Booth? Maybe some rebellious Linux babes....?

Would you find one, plz tell her I'd marry with her straight! Well after first sight

... Traditional DAW mixers were designed by companies with no pedigree in music mixing, and they suffer from well-known flaws. Harrison eliminated these flaws in Mixbus by completely replacing the DAW's internal mixing engine and applying proprietary True Analog processing. ...

LOL, looks like I'm a lucky guy with SAW Studio...

cheers, Tom