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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:15 am
by next to nothing
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:20 pm
by Neil B
And just to throw the cat amongst the pigeons:
Chip implants - inevitable - either on your forehead or right hand.
You won't be able to buy food or anything without the "mark of the beast" - read Revelation
(Oh no Neil, don't get them started again)

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:35 am
by garyb
YES! that's what makes life worth living!
until the matrix goes on line with more than 10% of the population using it, you can still avoid this monstrosity. the individual human being will cease to exist because once fully connected to the central server, there is no brake nor regulator. oh! but then borg would have the most appropriate screen name!

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:37 am
by next to nothing
follow the white rabbit
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:39 am
by garyb
it's not a good idea to make the actual matrix, but are you even listening?....
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:48 am
by Neil B
I always wanted one of those long coats they wear in the matrix, or the one Captain Jack wears in Torchwood. Makes the implant worthwhile somehow.

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 1:55 am
by garyb
sure, you get cool sunglasses and steaks taste REAL good in there too!

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:14 am
by Neil B
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:48 am
by Zer
You are all a bunch of freaky fuckin necromancers

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:23 am
by Liquid Len
Do these microchips control our consciousness or something? A massive tracking system would be easy to abuse, yes, but do they read our thoughts now?
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:36 am
by Nestor
It seems that they will work with microvolts sending commands to certain areas of your brain, so they say
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:40 am
by Neil B
Nestor wrote:It seems that they will work with microvolts sending commands to certain areas of your brain, so they say
So how does it work with women?
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:51 am
by King of Snake
I must say I'm not too worried about all the supposed conspiracies regularly presented here on the forum, but I am really pissed off about that fact that from next year on my country's passports will require a fingerprint which is gonna be stored into a big database "to catch criminals". So everyone's a potential criminal now, great. And not one real criminal or terrorist is gonna get himself caught that way anyway.
Just like the ridiculous airport security. Harassing all the passengers with their stupid transparent plastic bags to put in your "liquids" while at the same time a reporter proves the failure of the system by walking in unchecked trough the personnel entrance, with another person's id card and a fake fucking bomb in his bag. God I feel so much safer now that the old lady in front of me has put her makeup in a plastic bag while the unchecked personnel are sneaking drugs and bombs onto the plane.
Not to mention the compulsory identification which was brought in last year or so (I still refuse to carry my ID with me all the time, but if the police "caught me" they could fine me for it).
Oh yeah and now we also get a new digital public transport-card, which of course has to be a personalised and trackable card as well
yet a lot of people seem to enjoy this fake security and come at you with the same old argument "well if you've got nothing to hide, what do you care?"

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:10 am
by Liquid Len
Well obviously if they're using electricity it is tiny impulses if they are going to do anything with an internal organ but destroy it, but that's not exactly informative, nothing but speculation, as far as I am concerned. They must be doing some hellish amounts of research in private, I wasn't aware of any such ability to have sophisticated control of your neurons, one way or another. They have made a lot of interesting discoveries, the ability to manipulate and control people is still nothing but crude IMO. Just like their silly anti-depressants (and more serious but still far from all-powerful cults using classic manipulation techniques). The idea of 'reading' or 'writing' to a brain at this point is nothing but Star Trek fantasy, unless all that I know about brain science is deliberately dumbed down science. In that case, how do you know they can't simply read your mind ALREADY from electric voltages in your computer keyboard? How do you know vaccines and foods don't already contain nanobots that aid in their tracking and control? Hmm, I feel an irresistable urge to go eat now. Must be those scientists at it again!
On a somewhat related note, I also found it amusing that movie like Zietgiest spends its first half discrediting Christianity, with mostly ridiculously inaccurate facts, and it concludes with a warning about this microchipping! Hmm. Christianity is a fake, so we must beware the Revelations end time scenario - is there something wrong with this picture? (This is not an endorsement of any religion per se, as I'm sure most except for the Extremist Atheists understand).
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:42 pm
by garyb
KoS,
these laws are standardized and going into effect in every country. they are part of Agenda for the 21st century by the UN....
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:54 pm
by Nestor
What is difficult some how, is to understand the bottom line of it all. I mean, if you have some earnings out of it, but… submerging the world in darkness and pain doesn’t seem to be intelligent for those in charge, as THEY are going to be affected too.
I would like to understand the logical side of those things going on in the earth, but it is so irrational as a whole, that I don’t gain the inner momentum to actually grasp what they’re talking about.
I understand somebody stilling something, of course, I am not with him, but I understand that he wants to make his life easier taking other people goods… No way, whichever acting like this it’s a bastard! But at least, I understand the plot. But here… a global government crashing the world all together, it is something I don’t understand fully yet.
I would love to have a talk disguised as somebody else, with one of those BIG fish that are behind the veil of tyranny and repression, to find out WHICH is exactly their philology and WHY they want to put the world into pieces.
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:13 pm
by garyb
if the goal is absolute power, then the unthinkable is acceptable.
they won't suffer if the world is plunged into darkness. they have servants.
the philosophy is ordo ab chao.
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:02 pm
by Nestor
That makes sense Gary, unfortunately... Never thought of "absolute" power...
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:46 am
by hubird
you're free to refuse implants

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:03 am
by King of Snake
hubird wrote:you're free to refuse implants

for now yes. But it's not unthinkable that in the case the current political climate stays as it is for the next 25 years or so, at some point we will be required to have a biometric passport implanted at birth and linked to a big government database.
omg I'm starting to sound like GaryB now
*puts on tin-foil hat*
