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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:18 pm
by garyb
how would you recognize a "reliable" source?

read "Mein Kampf" and tell me that Hitler doesn't mention his inspiration from American Eugenics. read Thomas Malthus an Carroll Quigley's "tragedy and Hope". tell me that Margeret Sanger whio founded Planned Parenthood wasn't a Eugenicist. read David Rockefellor's autobiography and tell me that i'm lying. listen to A. Huxley's discription of the "coming scientific dictatorship" in his speach at Cal State Berkley in 1961.

it's easy to be ignorant, just stop thinking for yourself and do what the "experts" tell you.....

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:23 pm
by braincell
Planned parenthood does excellent work and I have nothing but the highest regards for that organization.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:31 pm
by garyb
Planned parenthood is about the destruction of family. family is the human trait that can save us all. eugenicists that think that they are homo superior and are best suited to control breeding and which genes are important and worth saving and which bloodlines need to be extinguished, are traitors to humanity. they are arrogant, foolish and wicked beyond belief to think that they have the right and the knowledge to manipulate humanity into a master race, and a slave race to be managed like cattle. these are the clearly stated aims and goals of eugenics.

planned parenthood is doing great work of encouraging the cause of eugenics with a happy face, so for haters of humanity, planned parenthood is angelic.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:37 pm
by braincell
Studies show educated and affluent people are much more likely to use birth control. What kind of eugenics is this? That's like reverse eugenics.

Is your solution to have everyone living in poverty and on a starvation diet? Living people are important. People who don't yet exist at not.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:48 pm
by garyb
you know, i can't think for you.

you can argue all you want, but the real evidence is available from the horse's mouth, so to speak, and i've given enough info for someone who wants to find out, to research and check my claims.

birthrates are always highest where the deathrate is highest. looking at birthrates alone is not the whole story. eugenics also uses tools like behavioral modification and race-specific bio weapons, economic and political pressure as well as out and out murder and war. the "educated" middle class is slated for cleansing too. the truly elite have always practiced deliberate breeding.

there's plenty to say about the subject, but this is not the appropriate forum.

the point is, that the "authorities" are not the authors of life, they are as ignorant and stupid as anyone else. they are not any more fit to make the kinds of decisions that you would have them make than you or i. placing the entire human experience in the hands of some allegedly benevolent dictatorship is suicide.

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:10 pm
by dawman
Glad your'e O.K. Brotha' Man Nestor.

I was roller blading on an asphalt golf cart path in Apple Valley during the Big Bear Quake of the early '90s' I fell hard, and got back up and fell again. I thought I had too many Jagers at the gig, but soon realised when I was watching people on the Hotel balconies that seemed like they were dancing, that I was in an earthquake. I did not enjoy feeling helpless like that. It was scarry. The following aftershocks made all the full length mirrors in the nightclub to appear convex, and working while this happened was so wierd. The people who live there know this could happen again anytime, and have such a party till you drop attitude. Crazy Californians.

South St.Louis was smack in the middle of Tornado Alley and I saw very many of these growing up, but mostly on television. My Grandfather use to comment that nature didn't care much for trailer parks, that's why they always seemed to hit those areas. I always wondered why most Tornados shy away from skyscrapers and large metropolitan areas.

I hope you have seen the worst of this.


Happy New Year. :wink:

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:20 pm
by hubird
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:10 pm
by Nestor
Some interesting information people from here told me.

Amazing story Jimmy, I’m also glad you did well in such a move!

Now the info:
About three days before the 21th of May 1960, nature became gradually crazy in the south of the country. Birds would fly covering the sky and migrate before its time, to places they never had before. Dogs and cats would run away to the countryside living their fellows human beings. Thousands of fish would try to get “out” of the ocean. The seashore had a carpet of all sort of fish, small and big. People did not understand what was going on, but they took advantage of this and got happily some fish to their homes, they had very little food left in general.

Miners had gone in rebellion against their bosses and as a protest, stopped working for three months before the tragedy. This protest caused authorities not to send food to the place for the last month. So they got it all, without food, without provisions… That is why people would eat fish like crazy just before it happened.

In the 1960, communication was very poor and particularly in such a small and forgotten country like Chile. So even if these reactions from nature are common place before big earthquakes take place in other countries, they did not know it, so for the crowd it was not a sign of danger, they just accepted it to eat. Some intuitive ones would understand that something bad was up to happen and went away with their families, saving their lives.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:18 pm
by astroman
a couple of good wishes from my side, too, Nestor - I hope your experience keeps you alerted and aware of whatever may (or better may not) happen...

Earthquakes are extremely rare in the area of Germany where I live, so the one I actually happened to 'attend' probably was the most bewildering experience I can remember.
Between 3 and 4 in the morning, almost sleepy in front of the PC screen... suddenly the walls started moving. I could clearly see the window frame 'drift' around the street light in front of the house - the floor in motion as well :o
'holy sh*t - a flashback from acid or wtf is going on ???' - my neckhair standing up, heartrate jumped from 50 to 150 - but it was real, walls and floor did move indeed - I felt as helpless as Jimmy described.

all the best to you and your family, Tom

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:38 am
by Nestor
So, you’ve also got the shake Astro… :)

Since I came to Chile about 6 years ago, I have experienced a few earthquakes every year, but nothing important, they are common place and nobody worries about them. It rather makes you laugh and get excited because everybody gets to talk about it and their funny experiences. People would tell you things like: “I was drinking my coffee and spilled some onto my trousers”, etc.

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:30 am
by hubird
astroman wrote:Between 3 and 4 in the morning, almost sleepy in front of the PC screen... suddenly the walls started moving.
I know that one, the epicentrum was in the south-east of Holland around the dutch/german frontier, I guess about 11 years ago.
There was some serious damage to buildings, very remarkable for this area.
I was in front of my Atari ST, when it started to happen I ran into the garden to be safe as possible.
The Atari with Cubase still was fine, I could just continue to work :-D