Sonicore board options for CME controllers

[HUROLURA]

By the way, also looks like a mix of Klangbox for Masterkeyboard extension board and NOAH-Light on a board to my eyes.

So it would be a configurable Minimax/B4000 Klangbox with the additional hability to be configured as a Lightwave or a Vocodizer. The question remaining is about the polyphony available (especially for Minimax and LightWave as B4000 and Vocodizer do not suffer from limitation).

Just half the plug of noah are missing
- Pro-12 and Prodyssey which were the 2 other Klangbox
- Six-string, ProOne, Interpole and EDS8I were nether released as standalone box so far.
Maybe planned for another version (analog collection ...) or as a future extension package.

The monotimbral feature is the other stepforward feature compared to the NOAH (2 parts) and NOAH EX (4 parts) but this could easily been explained by the price announced.

Just let me think this is the second product announced by Frank Hund a few month ago as the SOLARIS would have been the first one.

My conclusion would be that this looks like the offer is broaden once again to spread Scope technology toward:
- High End solution like the SOLARIS providing the multitimbral features.
- Entry level solution like this ASX board with the core minimal input/output features.

with still the other "older" solutions (scope board, klangboxes and ASB if still produced on a regular basis...).

Just for fun: what about a ASX Board SDK ?

All this looks promising for the platform...

CheerZ

[johnbowen]

Hurolura,

Just to clarifiy - the Solaris is not a product announced by Frank! This is my own product, and not exactly related to anything Creamware, except that as a plug-in it was first developed on that platform.
It's true that now we hope to convert some of the older CW dsp code for inclusion into the Solaris, but at the time the Solaris was planned, there was no such expectation. That is why I hired a new coder (Antti Huovilainen) to create all new modules!

regards,
john bowen

[Sandeep.inDSP]

The ASX Minimax is 8 voices, Lightwave - 12 voices.
There is a Voco+Lightwave option with 6 voices as well....

[costi_studio]

Sandeep

Really good !!!

Great news!!! You are so kind with your informations....

Sandeep,can you give us more specs if you are so kind?

We are close, so it's is clear that your expansion will have a a very good market, I have friends with the CME controllers that want your expantions!!!

Please let us know also, a very important thing about your expantion (and a crucial part for a hard synth), what sample rate (with internal oversampling? or not) and what bit resolution will have the asx, and also tell us something about the quality of the synths code comparing to the Scope, ASB and Klangbox. PLEASE!!!

Another thing that it is crucial about the expansion is the software upgrade, what synths and softwares you'll have on this platform??? All the Scope synths will be included or just the abs and knlangbox synths? Can you give us names of the synths? The patches from the Scope platform will be compatible with the expantions synths???

Why don't you make a stereo input in stead of the mic input, or both options with a switch??? Will be more open for other studio setups and you'll can sell also the efex plugs that are very good as a quality. If it not possible with the first release in june maybe in the second one

The modular will be included?? At least Modular v2 to be included... This will be also a very good part for your business cause alot of people will buy your expansion for the modular and the new exciting synthesis modules like Flexor v2.0!!!!!!

Another question is regarding the future, it will be other synths makers involved in your projects (other than usual creamware colaborators)?

And the last question, and very important one... Do you plan to have your software editor for the expantion to work as a VSTI in the DAW environment (Ableton, Cubase)???, and work well, not like the XTC mode that makes us nervous...... THIS WILL BE A WONDERFULL FEATURE, it will encourage alot of users to buy it cause will be very easy for them to edit and save pathches. Believe me!!!!!!!!

Thank you very much for your atention and I hope I will receive all the answers with one post if you'll colaborate with the potential buyers like Creamware did, you'll have a bright future, InDSP!!!

[astroman]

..., it will encourage alot of users to buy it cause will be very easy for them. Believe me!!!!!!!! ...

sure it will, on eBay...
sorry, couldn't resist - Tom

[costi_studio]

..., it will encourage alot of users to buy it cause will be very easy for them. Believe me!!!!!!!! ...

sure it will, on eBay...
sorry, couldn't resist - Tom

Tom,

Sorry but I don't understand your post... Can you explain it???

Costi

[hubird]

Sandeep and I hope I will receive all the answers with one post

yeah, why not?

[hifiboom]

Sandeep.inDSP,
welcome on the z planet.

I think its really a good thing to have the Scope developers and platform developers around here in this forum...

I think both sides can find an advantage in straight communication.

I`m looking forward to a great scope future.

[HUROLURA]

Hurolura,

Just to clarifiy - the Solaris is not a product announced by Frank! This is my own product, and not exactly related to anything Creamware, except that as a plug-in it was first developed on that platform.
It's true that now we hope to convert some of the older CW dsp code for inclusion into the Solaris, but at the time the Solaris was planned, there was no such expectation. That is why I hired a new coder (Antti Huovilainen) to create all new modules!

regards,
john bowen

Thanks for this clarification John.
By the way, I did not meant that the SOLARIS have been designed in any way by Frank Hund Team. I just thought he could have been aware about your work when he sent his post and just mention it as a new product in the Scope spirit to be announced (not especially by him, nothing have been announced during the Musikmesse from InDSP).

I do also understand that this product has been completly re-designed as you mention some difficulties to build up a SOLARIS ASB regarding the hardware and software available for that.

Once again, I just wish you a lot of success with your new Baby and just I could afford it one day (I already have some trouble to find the budget for a Scope Pro Card to run your Solaris plug-in, the Scope Home I have there would not be enough in my opinion...).

And maybe at the time that I will succeed to find some money you would release a downsized model (more in the shape of the ASB series or the Arturia Origin you told us you played with and the NAMM show).

CheerZ

[johnbowen]

Thanks for this clarification John.
By the way, I did not mean that the SOLARIS have been designed in any way by Frank Hund Team. I just thought he could have been aware about your work when he sent his post ....

To my knowledge, he was not aware of it.

regards,
john b.

[kylie]

And maybe at the time that I will succeed to find some money you would release a downsized model (more in the shape of the ASB series or the Arturia Origin you told us you played with and the NAMM show).

yes, john, give us poor souls the VolksSolaris I read the estimated price in your forum, and I'm afraid that the common solaris will remain something unreachable (dream).

-greetings, markus-

[johnbowen]

And maybe at the time that I will succeed to find some money you would release a downsized model (more in the shape of the ASB series or the Arturia Origin you told us you played with and the NAMM show).

yes, john, give us poor souls the VolksSolaris I read the estimated price in your forum, and I'm afraid that the common solaris will remain something unreachable (dream).

Kylie,
I'm afraid that such hardware is just expensive to make and produce. Not to trivialize your request, but there is an economic version of the Solaris, the Scope plug-in version. That's one of the main benefits for purchasing the Scope hardware and software - development costs are spread out and shared, etc., and hardware design is minimised.

regards,
john b.

p.s. By the way, the Arturia Origin will be in a very similar price range to the Solaris

[kylie]

yes, john, give us poor souls the VolksSolaris I read the estimated price in your forum, and I'm afraid that the common solaris will remain something unreachable (dream).

Kylie,
I'm afraid that such hardware is just expensive to make and produce. Not to trivialize your request, but there is an economic version of the Solaris, the Scope plug-in version. That's one of the main benefits for purchasing the Scope hardware and software - development costs are spread out and shared, etc., and hardware design is minimised.

john, I already knew you would (have to) say that before posting
it's ok, and since you have to take care that you don't suffer from losses by selling your dream piece, you have to take serious money for a serious synth. I'm just not in your target group, then. and I even have a hard decision which of your (software) synths would fit best my needs and budget (which you might have guessed, since I haven't bought one of those you sent me a demo of yet).
(but it's still on the list )

p.s. By the way, the Arturia Origin will be in a very similar price range to the Solaris

so at least I don't need to waste thoughts about that, too, in case I was interested

-greetings, markus-

[HUROLURA]

The ASX Minimax is 8 voices, Lightwave - 12 voices.
There is a Voco+Lightwave option with 6 voices as well....

Looks quite similar to the DSP power of the original standard NOAH (6 voice Minimax or 12 voice Lightwave).

The Vocodizer + 6 voice LightWave variation looks also quite similar.

From the picture on CME website, it looks like only one DSP chip is used for this board (compared to the bank of 6 DSP of the original NOAH).

For me, this looks like a condensed NOAH rebirth for a bargain price !!!

Should be a success only depending on the spread of the host masterkeyboards...

CheerZ

[HUROLURA]

p.s. By the way, the Arturia Origin will be in a very similar price range to the Solaris

Looks quite promising as I expected a price just slightly lower than the Korg OASYS.

So it looks like this jewel would be a sharp competitor with Clavia Modular G2X, Roland V-Synth GT or Virus TI keyboards.

Maybe I would be able to reach the budget for that dream machine earlier than I thought...

CheerZ

[astroman]

I'm not sure how European taxes will influence the estimated US price, but based on currency alone it looks pretty reasonable (almost a bit competive), imho.
It's what you would spend on many quality instruments, be it a sax, a bass, a guitar, a good stage-piano, a mint Rhodes or Minimoog...

cheers, Tom

[Shroomz~>]

I know someone (a local gear junkie) who sold a Jupitor-8 for over £2800 (pounds sterling) around a year or so ago. It was such an astonishing price for that synth (possibly the highest in many years) that other gear (synth) junkies on ebay were seemingly sending him messages congratulating him on the sale price he got.

My point is just that people will still pay money for something they really want, even in a world where ebay has oblitorated 2nd hand prices through sheer chaos

[hifiboom]

did he replace the hardware with the Arturia version....

seriously I really wanna see SonicCore hire back the two guys that made the prodyssey and minimax emulation(especially the great filters) and build a proper Jupiter for Scope

an inDSP ASB jupiter could complement the product range.

+ and Oberheim emulation

to show of the arturia guys how its really done.

The minimax, pro-12 and prodyssey are real sequels.... and in my personal opinion much more worth than the money I paid for them+the cards.

[Shroomz~>]

did he replace the hardware with the Arturia version....

No, he had 3 of them at the time. Naturally, he kept the best one

[hifiboom]

good friends...