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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 1:15 pm
by astroman
a great shot indeed - is it really from that distance (>20m) or did you emphasize the focus by blurring the background a bit ?
if original it's close to perfect, if manipulated then it's very tasteful :smile:

cheers, Tom

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:39 pm
by hubird
:smile:

All pictures that have blurred back and forgrounds are blurred in photoshop.

I'm not sure you can do that with my simple digital camera, some say it doen't work very well because of the small lense.

It's too complicated for me anyway, practically, on such an event :smile:

Mostl pictures are blurred in two or more stages, taking into account the different distances to the real subject.
The side effects of the Gaussian Blur plug, showing some 'glow' directly outside the sharp elements are visable in the girls picture.
I could have worked that away, with some other pictures I did that, but not with this one.

In this photo, the blurred one I mean, you still can see somehow the face of the guy between the girls, behind them, the people behind him again don't have a face at all.
It took me a few hours :grin:

Imagine the guy between the two girls would have been visible...yerh :grin:

The girls seem to bend away from each other, occasionally, as they are dancing.
The 'looking away' posure of the girl in white is emphasized by the left girl who looks streight to the camera.
however, it could be my own imagination, but you can almost smell the personnal relationship between the two of them -or did i say that already before?
My guess is they are mother and daughter.

This was the original picture:


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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:24 am
by astroman
well, I'm totally from the analog side of photography, missing Kodachrome and occasionally spending a fortune on 36 shots of Fujichrome (Velvia) :grin:
Huub really faked a long distance teleshot to a stunning degree, it's just that the background blur is slightly too patchy, but that's a very small deviation.

But what's more important is that he had an eye for the scene, and 'made' the picture from this idea.
You have some talent there, Huub :smile:

respect, Tom

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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:38 pm
by hubird
you make me feel good :grin:

The problem is, when you move too close to the picture you're after, people start to 'react', where I prefer to registrate.
I even failed with the two girls, but it got still right I think.
Imagine if I had passed the left and right guy on the front, I'm sure I would have destroyd the scene, the left girl seems to warn me already :grin:

So, the only 'trick' I did sometimes, was focussing the camera to a similar object qua light and distance, and then make the real sfot fast.
I must confess that I still use the viewer of the camera, instead of the display.
That alone atready creates some unwished emotional distance.

Anyway, most people do'nt mind at all to get shoot on a festival , but if you have to go very close because of the crowd then this way you're more sure you won't disturb what's going on at the moment.

That's why I do love the Crop command in Photoshop so much, you just put the story on front, if there's any :grin:

To be honest -and I never would say this on the photo thread of the Soulclipse website of course- I was really amazed about the number of 'useless' pictures made by other people.
Maybe I missed some, as some links don't seem to work here.

But: hundreds of photos with tenths of people's backs and the stage far at the end, overviews of the dancefloor with 40 meters of deserted grass in the foreground, shots of many people together without any interesting interactions or faces, etc.

And all (all) videos look like one blurred stroke because of (much) too fast moving.

I saw a few thausend photographs and I downloaded only a ten or so.
I can understand that those type of pictures are nice to view back once a while, but to put them all on the internet, obviously without any selection, looks strange to me.

Well, yes, there's one aspect of those pictures on the net that makes fun.
It's nice to see your head on pictures of other people you've never met.
But if you wasn't there those pictures in that numbers get a bit boring, to me at least.

I don't mind if a specific photograph shows 'technical' or artistic failures, I myself know nothing :grin:
But at least there must be something going on, on a picture, na?
Even if you wasn't there the picture must be worth to look at for a while.

So, I'm absolutely not suggesting my pictures are so good, I say that other ones are so bad :smile:
Which looks so strange to me.
Isn't the first question that has to be answered, 'what am I going to shoot now', if you're going to shoot now?

Btw, it's a nice way to keep the memories and feelings alive by organizing and editing holiday pictures, or any pictures of course, and -still- to see al the pictures on the net.
At least you get the athmosphere right away again :smile:

It fades away in a more pleasant way, if you see what I mean :smile:

Hopefully no one else of us was there :wink:

edit: and after all those words, it often is pure by accident that you get a nice shot.
Take this (just links now, don't wanne look like pushing my stuff), http://www.ezsound.nl/huub/Photographes ... l1-873.jpg
When I made that picture I did not see the girl I lifted out of it, http://www.ezsound.nl/huub/Photographes ... s1-873.jpg
She's blurred a bit by enlarging, but that could have been intentionally.
My own blurs are absolutely not perfect, as you can see at the right of her face (hear is difficult to handle, and I not always go for perfect, it's still there anyway).

The thing is, it looks like you can see what she's feeling, or, better, that she happily is realizing what she's feeling.
All in my imagination of course :grin:
Yet I wasn't aware.
The blue collor of the canvas is just perfect, but I didn't know :smile:
I just found her on my computerdesk, the original picture is a typical useless one, well maybe the occasional colors are nice, but that's not so difficult when shooting at Goa parties :smile:

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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:18 pm
by astroman
you probably were too busy spotting the other 2 girls featured (later?) in the 'tele shot' - they are a little left from the center... :grin:
... otherwise it's hard to believe you overlooked her :wink:

cheers, tom

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:51 pm
by hubird
d*mn it d*mn it d*mn it!
there they are!
congrats Tom, that's phenomenal :grin:
I did overlook her (them)!
And exactly on this picture amongst all of them they are present.
116 photos I put on my Soulclipse page, and I mentioned this one just for other reasons.
Jeez.
can't believe this man :lol:

edit: At least they really did exist :grin:
here they are:
http://www.ezsound.nl/huub/PlanetZ/Two% ... t1-873.jpg

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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:10 am
by Spirit
Interesting. A great crop & blur job on that pic Hubird.

Also I know what you mean about getting too close and disturbing the animals. Just like photographing wild animals or little kids playing (sometimes very similar) - you must stay out of the action or you start to influence the scene.

@Tm, if you like those old processing effects you may like to use the "Exposure" plugin from Alienskin. I use it almost every day:

http://www.alienskin.com/exposure/expos ... mples.html

Although I'm not a film chemical fanatic, that plugin does have a lot of subtle control over the image - much better than the heavy-handed destruction of the standard Photoshop plugs.

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:51 am
by Zer
Here are some other pictures of the event hai in den mai

http://www.baumtraum.net/Galerie_Pics/W ... llery.html

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 1:18 pm
by hubird
great pictures Zer :smile:
Midsummertime that fire would have burned the whole area I think :grin:

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 6:18 am
by braincell
Those twins are amazing. One of them is a gypsy and the other one a ballerina/princess.

We have a festival like that here. It's called Halloween. Halloween doesn't feature good music though.

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:36 pm
by hubird
On 2006-05-27 07:18, braincell wrote:
Those twins are amazing
I'd still say mother and dauther...cat and kitten... the left one is watchful...but who knows :smile:

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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:46 pm
by braincell
The left Yin and the right Yang or is it the other way around?

Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:12 pm
by hubird
indeed...both sides... :grin:

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 12:55 am
by Zer
On 2006-05-27 07:18, braincell wrote:
Those twins are amazing. One of them is a gypsy and the other one a ballerina/princess.

We have a festival like that here. It's called Halloween. Halloween doesn't feature good music though.
:grin:

Well, I`d have to point out that not all people their do look like zombies even if those pictures may imply so.