The Sony Multimedia World Corporation

Shroomz~> · Post by **Shroomz~>** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:29 am

I c where you're coming from an a big way, but you should know what we're up against. Mainstream music has been manipulated into it's horrific *manufactured* state to make money from the masses, simple as that. The clever guys know that 80-90% of the masses are quite happy to listen to manufactured rubbish in abundance & thus procede to spoon feed it to them in ANY way they can, just as they do with television, films & even the media (manufactured news & media)

What's the answer? Who would you drag kicking & screaming? I reckon turn on the radio knowing what the program is. There *are* good radio broadcasts (musically speaking) applying to almost all genres of music. You just have to pick & choose what you watch, what you listen to, what you believe. If you change that in a radical shift, surely you'd be the one doing the spoon feeding ?

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:51 am

On 2005-12-20 04:09, H-Rave wrote:
...I'm just sick of switching on the radio in the car and hearing the same 30 song playlist on every station...

but seriously - they don't play that list (or sponsored self fullfilling prophecy) just to nag you personally.
There is a lot of reasearch done which content is the most effective to transmit the commercial content that's the stations' own business.

People eat that sh*t like burgers...
do you consider yourself more equal ?

fine - then we're a couple of virtual non-democrats already...

Any industry is always complaing that not enough cash comes in - it's the same boring story over and over again. It's an integral part of the system and can be ignored by those able to think (who wouldn't believe the whiners anyway)

since hundreds of years the mainstream always financed the 'sophisticated' stuff - but isn't it that today you actually HAVE alternatives ?

you can load tons of mp3 stuff (according to your taste) unattended from the net and use it on a portable player in the car.
could it be that you feel just excluded because the station ignores you ?

the content for playback isn't a problem, and the sound quality from your player is probably even better than the radio, but there's no personal adress anymore - you're alone on the road and no longer a part of the station's community

at least something like that did matter for me when I had to use the car a lot - you entered a certain area and switched to a familiar station

cheers, tom

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darkrezin · Post by **darkrezin** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:52 am

Agree with Shroomz here. There's many things you can do to subvert the mainstream... the most positive one is to make your own music that grabs people by the neck and forces them to like it because it's so damn good. Quite frankly, listening to 99% of the dance music (for example) out there, I'm not surprised it's so non-mainstream - it's usually a 1-bar loop stretched out over 7 minutes. Hardly groundbreaking stuff.

People want songs which do emotional things to them. More often than not this need for emotion leads to utterly nauseating cheese. However, there's nothing stopping you making something honest and intelligent.

I agree the distribution model is bullshit, but look at the system we live in - it's a logical symptom. It's really hard to break into that framework, but it's always possible... it just needs positive action.

H-Rave · Post by **H-Rave** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:54 am

Don't get me wrong here I'm not a musical Dictator, I'm talking for myself and not anyone else,I know there is ALOT of talent out there,I know it's the same old story,whether it's reviving 70's,80's or 90's.
It Bugs me the fact record companies are playing the same safe music,when anyone knows that by taking risks, both musically and financially,Ok So you can fall flat on your face,but when you make the right choice you have alot more to gain.

braincell · Post by **braincell** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:41 am

There seems to be a shift going on. The major labels and film studios are not going away but they are not going to have the power they once had. That is why they are paranoid. Even without any piracy, they are going to make less money. The fact of the matter is that there are simply more ways to entertain yourself. It might not be good news for commercial musicians but most of them never made much money off the industry anyway.