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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:31 am
by kensuguro
If people had more respect for the musicians of the past, and why those guys made that music, then maybe we wouldn't have all the bullshit meaningless music we see clogging up the market today.
right on point.
Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:07 pm
by hubird
sure, but having still to listen to all the museum pieces can't attract me eighter...

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:59 am
by darkrezin
I wasn't talking about treating musical history like a museum. I was talking about musical culture and respecting it. For example, look at hip-hop today - it makes me sick. When hip-hop started, it was a positive reaction to living in some pretty horrible conditions, with state-sponsored racism meaning that opportunities were very limited. It was all about partying in spite of the surrounding hardships, and a way of unifying the community through positive music. This followed on from the positive funk and jazz of the 70s. It was also all about skills - real skills and pushing the boundaries of the gear at your disposal to make music with real depth, not just using a few sample CDs, Fruity Loops and a Korg Triton to make some shallow, wack-sounding crap.
Hip-hop now is bullshit (except selected underground guys like MF Doom, Madlib, etc). It's become as mainstream as heavy metal was in the 80s. It's just record company cock-sucking. Musically it's boring and the content of the lyrics plays into the hands of the corporate system which has enslaved the black community for centuries - speaking about flashy cars, phones, jewellery, bitches, champagne and other vacuous stupid stuff. While this may seem glamorous and exciting in the videos, consumer culture like this simply makes poor people give up what little money they have for the chance of some kind of self-esteem. The rappers get caught up in stupid 'beef' and dissing contests, which lead them to further destroy themselves, and getting the black population fighting amongst themselves too. Meanwhile the record company vultures feed off the situation voraciously.
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:18 pm
by hubird
right on
