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Post by **garyb** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:24 pm

don't think that this is the problem, but just for yucks disable usb port #s 24D2 and 24DE which are sharing with the ati card. i believe you will still have an active usb port on irq 19. (use the device manager)

see if the system still freezes. if it does, we can move on to drivers and bios and memory testing.....

sorry you have troubles, let's figure it out...

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:19 pm

You should also disable the serial ports Com1 & Com2 (and any parallel ports) in the bios unless you're actually using them. This will free up more IRQ's for ACPI to allocate.

I also notice that the conflicts you list are with your graphics card but the card isn't in the list of IRQ's as far as I can see (its early).

valis · Post by **valis** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:20 pm

You should also disable the serial ports Com1 & Com2 (and any parallel ports) in the bios unless you're actually using them. This will free up more IRQ's for ACPI to allocate.

I also notice that the conflicts you list are with your graphics card but the card isn't in the list of IRQ's as far as I can see (its early).

[edit] I see in a previous post you have USB and AGP sharing, are you using a USB midi device? Also, when you disable some of the USB ports you may find yourself needing to go into the case and switch the usb jumpers to another header on the motherboard. That can be handled when we get that far though...

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:29 pm

well I disabled usb port #s 24D2 and 24DE
and so far it hasn't froze on me, but its gone a few days before freezing b4 so i won't speak to soon. i'll be back with good news or bad news very shortly

thanks

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:43 pm

I spoke to soon!!!!!! aarrghh

it froze, but I tested it for 3 hours with only audio and effects in cubase with my scope project with midi filter included.

then when I fired up my keyboard (cs2x) the system hung again like it was looping over 1 beat and no ctrl alt delete, hard kill needed

pah!

out of interest what are the two o/p on my midi monitor?, I am using minv but there is also a mfil o/p

so maybe my prob is still with midi?
or shall I keep going with the hardware problem shooting

at0m · Post by **at0m** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:57 pm

The MIDI filter has 2 outputs indeed: One that outputs the incoming midi excluding the selections of the filter panel, the other one outputs anything that's filtered. So it's a selective splitter, using a filter.

Using MIDI filters in Scope for this problem, which is most probably caused by the cx2, is no cure as you can see: the midi already got to SFP (where it's filtered) and the damage is done. Check if the keyboard transmits active sensing, and turn that off. On my keyboard, it cannot be turned off and I filter the active sensing in my Pc1600x, right before SFP. Maybe you have a unit that can do it like that - main point is Active Sensing is useless and shouldn't make it to Scope.

Hope this helps...

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:05 pm

my keyboard doesnt have the option to turn off active sensing, I do have a phatboy though, maybe that would filter it.

anyway I had the wrong o/p from the midi filter, i was using the unfiltered o/p now i'm coming out of mfil and theres defo no active sensing

right so i'm testing it now, trying to force a freeze

watch this space

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:23 pm

well it hasn't froze in over an hour?

i'm not getting very good performance out of cubase, 3 vst's is the maxium I can run without the cpu overloading. and im running a hyperthread p4 and 1gb ram

touch wood my midi problem may be sorted

Post by **garyb** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:07 pm

turn off hyperthreading(or don't, but the gains of ht are minimal and the stability without ht is better).

what vsts are you running?

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:27 am

Ok I will turn it off, vst's i'm running are REFX Vanguard, Korg Legacy Collection and Junglist

Post by **garyb** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:35 am

that does look like heavy overhead for those plugs...what ulli are you using? what do your windows look like, xp or '98? what other programs are running?

do you have the latest bios, chipset and video drivers?

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:36 am

Ive changed my display to look like 98 only because I don't really like the xp look

I will have a look around for bios and graphics updates, I think I have the latest drivers for my graphics. I will check

what is chipset, how do I get that?

How can I monitor whats being used in memory

Post by **garyb** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:47 am

the chipset drivers are available your motherboard's manufacturer's website. there should have been a cd included with your motherboard...you did install them right? if not, you're probably not running in dma mode. you can check for dma mode in the device manager. check the ide properties(assuming you are using ide drives). you can also disable write caching on the hds...

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:29 pm

my IDE says DMA if available.....
touch wood my PC hasn't crashed for a few days, but maybe thats coz i'm using only audio in cubase and no midi
annoying that i'm at max cpu when im only running ohm boy fx and a few compressors.
and 10 tracks of audio + rewired with reason
not using any vsti's

p4 3Mhz and 1gig of ram
can't seem to find the chipset drivers, do you think this would fix it anyway?

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Post by **garyb** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:47 pm

maybe. i don't know that plugin, but some "great" vsts are really cpu hungry.

what's your motherboard again? i'll get the download for you....

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:48 am

right I've found the bios update (is that a chipset?)

I've got an asus p4p800 deluxe

I hate doing this bios updates, about 5 yrs ago I fried a motherboard so here goes. BRB

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Post by **garyb** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:11 pm

no that's a bios update. the chipset installer is on the utilities page. i downloaded it. pm me with your email and i'll send it to you ( 2.35mb )

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:08 pm

thanks for sending it over gary, much appreciate, anythings worth a try, how can i monitor whats being used in ram, is there a tool built in to windows I can't see one

also i found out that antares tube amp vst is caning alot of my cpu, so thats out from now on

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Post by **garyb** » Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:17 pm

don't know of such a tool built in windoze....

any vst that REALLY sounds good is likely(not that it will be, but likely)to be a cpu HOG...

you could, maybe, disable all the other vsts and freeze the track with the antares effect. then you could disable or remove the antares tube and reenable the other effects. too much freezing is tedious and makes mixing impossible(with a reverb, for example that must be unfrozen and then refrozen everytime a slight adjustment is made...), but on an effect like that, i'd think freezing would work well.

mrvinyl · Post by **mrvinyl** » Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:03 am

Thanks gary, I have done that, and it works well, infact probably easier having the file as audio.

especially the ohm boyz vst, its a squelchy delayed filter twisted sh101 type of effect running over half the track so this works well having it as audio

is there a freeze option?? i'm just soloing the track in question and exporting it down to an audio track, i think iread that new versions of logic have a one touch freeze button???

so far so good, my pc hasn't froze, but i'm sure it will be back, but for the time being, all is good!!!

is there a good way of sidechaining the kick and bass within cubase, but using the project window in scope?

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