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Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:54 am
by paulrmartin
Counterparts, you missed the point about Hedges.
His technique wasn't only about tapping, it was about alternate tunings. I saw him live and he would tune the guitar differently for almost every tune.
He also played the Gibson Harp-Guitar, which was quite amazing to watch and hear.
If you play guitar and are at all interested I'm sure you can find some tablatures of Hedges music with the tunings.
Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 4:25 pm
by Counterparts
paulrmartin wrote:
Counterparts, you missed the point about Hedges.
Not really...I wasn't talking about him as I still haven't heard or seen anything he's done
I was really referring to the two-handed tapping technique as demonstrated in the video and used by Stanley Jordan (who I am familiar with) and my use of the word limited was directed at the tonal range one can produce using that technique.
I will get round to listening to some Hedges, though!
He also played the Gibson Harp-Guitar, which was quite amazing to watch and hear.
*googles*
If you play guitar and are at all interested I'm sure you can find some tablatures of Hedges music with the tunings.
Alas, I don't read tab.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 6:50 am
by ChrisWerner
Wonderful, I need an e-guitar.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:37 am
by Counterparts
paulrmartin wrote:
... the Gibson Harp-Guitar
Wow! That really is a bit gorgeous.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 8:25 am
by paulrmartin
Wanna really freak out? Check this page out:
http://thetapmag.free.fr/eng/interviews_eng.html
Scroll down til you get to Nakï.
His instrument is a Chapman Stick with a tambura and 13 harp strings added on. The guy who built the instrument used to worked on my guitars when I worked in his region.(I suspect he had a tin ear because he tuned them with a Roland tuner)
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:00 am
by Counterparts

These are custom one-offs?
BTW, can you recommend one or two Hedges albums for me to start on? There's quite a lot out there...
TIA,
Royston
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:41 am
by paulrmartin
Beyond Boundaries is a great place to start. It illustrates all of the ways Hedges would play.
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:15 am
by Counterparts
Ta very much Paul!
"Hello, Amazon? Listen up..."

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:41 pm
by Immanuel
... Aerial boundaries (was his second album). I have that one and Breakfast in the Fields (his first album).
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:16 pm
by nprime
I think I have them all, and I couldn't say one or the other was "better". "Aerial Boundaries" is as good a place to start as any. I thought the last album was pretty great. The live album is also a good starting point. It's all good...why is it the best ones always go too soon?
R
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:37 am
by Counterparts
"Beyond Boundaries" has arrived at work this morning!
I shall give it a whirl whilst grinding my way through a code review...(ugh)
Royston
Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:48 am
by paulrmartin
And?

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 10:10 am
by Counterparts
Code reviews SUCK big time!!
4000+ lines of C# on a Monday morning...I'd rather have a wisdom tooth extracted. Cheeky author tricked me by saying it was written in VB.NET too!
They also require large gollops of concentration, so I'm going to put off listening to Monsieur Hedges until I get home...then I'll crank him up on my Bowers & Wilkins!
Review to follow shortly...
Royston
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:31 am
by Counterparts
paulrmartin wrote:
And?
Well, I hadn't forgotten about this, I've just been giving the album a fair chance to 'grow on me' which it has completely failed to do.
I think his music is nowhere, really. I get the impression he's still learning his instrument - perhaps not the guitar itself, but that's not the only thing being played when you pick up an instrument.
The melodies are too spread-out through the song and are mostly repetative and non-progressive. No strong theme is ever presented well. I found the production on a lot of the tracks quite annoying as there are very quite bits followed by over-the-top slapping percussive hits which aren't effective in a dynamic sense, just irritating (or painful if you happen to have turned up the volume to listen to the quiet bits!)
I think that somewhere along the way, Hedges has lost his "hairy plums of love", or perhaps he never had any to start with.
Compared with Zappa's Jumbalaya, Vai's Vindaloo, Rheinhardt's Crispy Salad or Bream's Souflé, this is low-calorie margerine.
Royston
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:56 am
by Immanuel
To each his own

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:14 pm
by Counterparts
Indeed
I did promise a review though and the CD cost me the equivalent of about five fine pints of beer...
*thought*
Hey! Does anybody want a free Michael Hedges CD for Christmas? As it's the season of goodwill and getting completely hammered, I will post this er .... coffee mug coaster ... anywhere in the world free of charge to whoever asks for it first!
Makes a fine dog chew, a frisbee for small children, a hundred and one uses! You can even play it in your CD player!
Royston
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:34 pm
by Immanuel
Hey I would like that

Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:26 pm
by nprime
On 2004-12-13 12:14, Counterparts wrote:
Hey! Does anybody want a free Michael Hedges CD for Christmas? As it's the season of goodwill and getting completely hammered, I will post this er .... coffee mug coaster ... anywhere in the world free of charge to whoever asks for it first!
Makes a fine dog chew, a frisbee for small children, a hundred and one uses! You can even play it in your CD player!
Royston
Strange that you could dislike it so much, that's really too bad, especially when you could have had beer instead.
R
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:04 pm
by Immanuel
On 2004-12-13 16:26, nprime wrote:
that's really too bad, especially when you could have had beer instead.
ROFL
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:22 am
by Counterparts
nprime wrote:
especially when you could have had beer instead.
Tell me about it!
Immanuel, the CD is yours - Happy Christmas!
Royston