final mix sound quality

[at0m]

I used to mix everything outboard and it's a royal pain without automation!

I have a friend who uses this serial2VCA patchbay. He automates the analog mixer by means of VCA on the inputs. I found it quite amazing, but there you go with analog automation

Basic Pitch, I use a Studiomaster 16-2. Never heared of it before, but bands who rehearse here like to use my living room to stack up unused gear It has 16ch, 2 aux (pre/post), +/-16dB tripple EQ and 15-60dB pre-gain. I haven't used many different analog mixers, but it sounds fine to me. As I said above, 10 inputs are filled w Analog and Luna2496 outs. 2 are used by the laptop and 4 are noisy, I keep down. A pre and a post Aux are fed back to the Lunabox, which appear as such in Mono Source modules in the project or patches.
Often I keep the project all digital and just send a mix out, so I don't have to operate 10 channels all the time. But when the project grows more serious I route 10 busses to analog, which seems to make the mix less sterile, more live.

[valis]

On 2004-08-06 16:45, blazesboylan wrote:
I still stand by the RNC as being great across a mix bus.

I <3 my RNC as well! I use it on busses 7/8 though. Saving for another with the funk logic rack faceplate...

[MrV]

Hi Folks ,
I've observed this post with interest .
I've done lots of albums etc over the past 5 years using Cubase asio in to Scope then asio back in to Cubase , record mix in real time. Very happy with that , it's an excellent system , clients happy too. Cheers M

[rezzer]

This thread was nice to discover because I also have been working through various mixer configurations. After much effort, and not long before I saw this thread, I finally decided that the ideal approach for me was the same others here have concluded - have cubase send a clean channel of data for each track to SFP, add effects & mix in SFP, and record the final mix track back in cubase in realtime. It seems to be the only way I can get this stuff to work well for me.

I do have one question: When recording the final mixdown in cubase, how can I be sure the level I'm recording is the same as the level I'm hearing out the monitors? I'm using the 2448 with the mixdown channel in cubase connected to Ext1 and the 'final mix' being sent to the ASIO channel that cubase is assigned to record the final mix into. I listen via the pulsar analog dest connected to the monitor outputs of the 2448, and I'm able to select the monitor channel between 'mix' and 'ext1' to audibly compare the mix being sent to Cubase and the final output Cubase is recording. I'm finding when I switch from mix to ext1 they usually sound noticably different without careful tweaking. It would be nice to select some mode in cubase that would record it 'raw' as it comes through the ASIO port, but I have a feeling that's not an option and if I want to keep using cubase as the recorder for the final mix then I'll probably have to adjust the cubase mixdown channel until they are the same.

The V-dat seems like a perfect solution actually but I can't affort to spend the money on that. Any advice? Thanks in advance,

[wayne]

many people here seem to record to a wave editor out of cubase, i've noticed.

[astroman]

there's the single channel mixing module - you could apply this before the 'final' ASIO pair routed to back to Cubase.
Adjust levels as desired and possibly apply whatever you want as 'standard' master inserts.

Imho VDAT isn't such a big advantage for the master track, as you probably will have to render it to final resolution anyway.

VDAT might be interseting for recording sequentially (say) 4 alternative master takes, which could then be switched on the fly by solo-ing the respective pairs.

cheers, Tom

[mr swim]

If you're just recording a master track, can't you just do it with one of the STS samplers ?

VDAT would be preferable, but this might save any unecessary ASIO translations ...

Will.