Thanks Gary, I’m glad S|C is aware and working on it!garyb wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:47 pm there is a problem with wordclock at the moment.
the next update will have a fix.
Scope 7
-
- Posts: 1638
- Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:57 pm
Re: Scope 7
Re: Scope 7
Thanks for confirming this, I have been struggling to get BMC to work as well.
- rhythmaster
- Posts: 295
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 4:00 pm
- Location: Danube Town
- Contact:
Re: Scope 7
Hi!
Scope7:
I have still windows 10 64bit crashes with DAS LEGEND 64 bit and MASTER IT 64 bit.
I did everything what was told here to make them run:
1) Don't copy any DSP Files --> OK
2) Just put the 64 bit DEV-Files to the Devices Folder --> OK
That's all as it was described before.
But when I load LEGEND there is a message "Can't find DSP file DAS COEF11 VxD" and "Can't find DSP file DASX20".
OK. DASX20 is not in the default SCOPE 7 installer. Is it needed to run the plugin?
When I put the 64bit DAS COEF11 file into the sys folder Windows crashes on that file (64 bit).
When I load MASTER IT it says "Can't find DSP file DAS COEF11 VxD". When I put the file into the sys folder WIN 10 64 bit crashes.
Are those the latest 64 bit versions?
/server/public/scope/scope_plug-ins/digital_audio_soft/additionals_windows_64bit/
What did you do to make both plugins run?
Thanks
Harry
Scope7:
I have still windows 10 64bit crashes with DAS LEGEND 64 bit and MASTER IT 64 bit.
I did everything what was told here to make them run:
1) Don't copy any DSP Files --> OK
2) Just put the 64 bit DEV-Files to the Devices Folder --> OK
That's all as it was described before.
But when I load LEGEND there is a message "Can't find DSP file DAS COEF11 VxD" and "Can't find DSP file DASX20".
OK. DASX20 is not in the default SCOPE 7 installer. Is it needed to run the plugin?
When I put the 64bit DAS COEF11 file into the sys folder Windows crashes on that file (64 bit).
When I load MASTER IT it says "Can't find DSP file DAS COEF11 VxD". When I put the file into the sys folder WIN 10 64 bit crashes.
Are those the latest 64 bit versions?
/server/public/scope/scope_plug-ins/digital_audio_soft/additionals_windows_64bit/
What did you do to make both plugins run?
Thanks
Harry
Re: Scope 7
move dsp files into Scope that aren't in Scope already!
just don't overwrite newer files with older files.
DAS COEF11 is a sys file, i believe. make sure that the 64bit version is in the sys folder.
just don't overwrite newer files with older files.
DAS COEF11 is a sys file, i believe. make sure that the 64bit version is in the sys folder.
- rhythmaster
- Posts: 295
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 4:00 pm
- Location: Danube Town
- Contact:
Re: Scope 7
I've downloaded the 64 bit DAS COEF11 of course.
BTW it crashed also with SCOPE 5.1 version before SCOPE7.
Maybe a different problem??
BTW it crashed also with SCOPE 5.1 version before SCOPE7.
Maybe a different problem??
Re: Scope 7
Is BNC wordclock broken for Xite, Scope or both?
Re: Scope 7
Have u tried MASTER IT EQ LT2.zip from http://www.digitalaudiosoft.com/ => Support => User Area ? It works without COEF11rhythmaster wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:26 pm I've downloaded the 64 bit DAS COEF11 of course.
BTW it crashed also with SCOPE 5.1 version before SCOPE7.
Maybe a different problem??
- rhythmaster
- Posts: 295
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 4:00 pm
- Location: Danube Town
- Contact:
Re: Scope 7
Yes that works. Thanks a lot. But it would be great to see that DAS COEF11 be fixed. Does Digital Audio Soft still exist?dante wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:42 pmHave u tried MASTER IT EQ LT2.zip from http://www.digitalaudiosoft.com/ => Support => User Area ? It works without COEF11rhythmaster wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:26 pm I've downloaded the 64 bit DAS COEF11 of course.
BTW it crashed also with SCOPE 5.1 version before SCOPE7.
Maybe a different problem??
But LEGEND still not working.
Re: Scope 7
actually, DAS is still around, although 1/2 of that team has been fatally ill.
afaik, the 64bit version of that file DOES work.
afaik, the 64bit version of that file DOES work.
Re: Scope 7
DAS Legend is working fine here.
Xite-1 Scope 7 Win7 64bit
Xite-1 Scope 7 Win7 64bit
- rhythmaster
- Posts: 295
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 4:00 pm
- Location: Danube Town
- Contact:
Re: Scope 7
Could you post the direkt link to that specific file please?garyb wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:30 am actually, DAS is still around, although 1/2 of that team has been fatally ill.
afaik, the 64bit version of that file DOES work.
I definitely grabbed the right one from Soniccore ftp.
Thx
Re: Scope 7
On my system and others, a Microsoft KB update to Windows 8.x x64 broke the use DAS COEFF11. I doubt on systems inheriting that KB code that it will be fixed (that includes my current Win8 x64, Win10 x64, Scope 5.1 and Scope 7). C350L and MasterIT Lite don't use COEF11 so will work on all OS'es. The non COEFF versions of DAS plugs are the definitive solution to that particular problem and was built though sheer determination and no remuneration to help us even though the DAS team member was ill so full credit there.rhythmaster wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:03 amYes that works. Thanks a lot. But it would be great to see that DAS COEF11 be fixed. Does Digital Audio Soft still exist?dante wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:42 pmHave u tried MASTER IT EQ LT2.zip from http://www.digitalaudiosoft.com/ => Support => User Area ? It works without COEF11rhythmaster wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 1:26 pm I've downloaded the 64 bit DAS COEF11 of course.
BTW it crashed also with SCOPE 5.1 version before SCOPE7.
Maybe a different problem??
But LEGEND still not working.
You have to take into account that the plugs were built around COEF11 for a reason of improvement on what was available on Scope for that particular math (so much so that Brainworx wanted to use that particular IP at the time). Microsoft breaking that means it can no longer be used for that purpose so that particular winning combination of Scope and Native math is broken. It wont happen even if the plug was totally recoded from scratch to use just Scope DSP.
- rhythmaster
- Posts: 295
- Joined: Sun Sep 02, 2001 4:00 pm
- Location: Danube Town
- Contact:
Re: Scope 7
Thanks for clarificationdante wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:05 pmOn my system and others, a Microsoft KB update to Windows 8.x x64 broke the use DAS COEFF11. I doubt on systems inheriting that KB code that it will be fixed (that includes my current Win8 x64, Win10 x64, Scope 5.1 and Scope 7). C350L and MasterIT Lite don't use COEF11 so will work on all OS'es. The non COEFF versions of DAS plugs are the definitive solution to that particular problem and was built though sheer determination and no remuneration to help us even though the DAS team member was ill so full credit there.rhythmaster wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:03 amYes that works. Thanks a lot. But it would be great to see that DAS COEF11 be fixed. Does Digital Audio Soft still exist?dante wrote: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:42 pm
Have u tried MASTER IT EQ LT2.zip from http://www.digitalaudiosoft.com/ => Support => User Area ? It works without COEF11
But LEGEND still not working.
You have to take into account that the plugs were built around COEF11 for a reason of improvement on what was available on Scope for that particular math (so much so that Brainworx wanted to use that particular IP at the time). Microsoft breaking that means it can no longer be used for that purpose so that particular winning combination of Scope and Native math is broken. It wont happen even if the plug was totally recoded from scratch to use just Scope DSP.

Re: Scope 7
The reason I'm asking is because my wordclock card doesn't show up *at all*, and I would guess this is the bug and it affects Scope?
I do see a 'Src 6' & 'Src 7' attached to the first Pulasr2 card, and I've never seen that before.
Re: Scope 7
src 6 and 7 has been what it's been for a while, as i r...
Re: Scope 7
Could be, though I don't recall that in 5.1 specifically I did use v4/3.1 much much more.
However I have no red 'led' light next to either Src, nor will it sync to those.
However I have no red 'led' light next to either Src, nor will it sync to those.
Re: Scope 7
As far as XITE/A16 is concerned, BNC word clock works fine with V5.1 Scope. It's broken with Scope 7. I'm sure this will be addressed in the next update. Couldn't tell ya about the Pulsar/Scope cards since I never used them like that.valis wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:22 pmThe reason I'm asking is because my wordclock card doesn't show up *at all*, and I would guess this is the bug and it affects Scope?
I do see a 'Src 6' & 'Src 7' attached to the first Pulasr2 card, and I've never seen that before.
- Bud Weiser
- Posts: 2900
- Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:29 am
- Location: nowhere land
Re: Scope 7
Did you also try w/ a single A16 (Ultra) and XITE-1, using Z-Link and/or ADAT only, no BNC connected at all ?krizrox wrote: Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:45 am
As far as XITE/A16 is concerned, BNC word clock works fine with V5.1 Scope. It's broken with Scope 7.
Does that work at least, SCOPE 7 32Bit and/or 64Bit ?
I understand, when using both,- Z-Link w/ A16 (Ultra) and (an)other ADAT converter(s) in addition, just to make usage of all the available I/O channels,- BNC wordclock and a masterclock unit is essential. Right ?
So, as long as the upcoming SCOPEv7 update isn´t released, it´s impossible creating such setup ?
I´m asking ´cause I´m about buying more gear expanding I/Os for my rig, w/ SCOPE v7 & XITE-1 being the central pieces of the rig making all that front-end analog (line) mixers obsolete,- hopefully.

Bud
S|C Scope/XITE-1 & S|C A16U, Scope PCI & CW A16U
Re: Scope 7
Bud; My config uses most of the I/O's of the Xite-1 and I haven't noticed any clock issues. (rate locks solid every time and no noticeable pops or clicks)
Here is what I have:
Xite-1 - Slave
Presonus Digimax FS - Master (ADAT to Xite-1 ADAT A)
A16U - Master (Z-Link to to Xite-1)
Scope PCI in separate computer - Slave (ADAT B to/from Xite-1)
TC Fireworx - Slave (AES to Xite-1)
Technically I'm not sure if this config is really supposed to work but, well it does seem to from what I've experienced.
Granted, I haven't run any bench tests and I am only using 44.1 so maybe higher reso will break it, don't know.
At any rate, at least you can use the equipment until the fix comes.
Here is what I have:
Xite-1 - Slave
Presonus Digimax FS - Master (ADAT to Xite-1 ADAT A)
A16U - Master (Z-Link to to Xite-1)
Scope PCI in separate computer - Slave (ADAT B to/from Xite-1)
TC Fireworx - Slave (AES to Xite-1)
Technically I'm not sure if this config is really supposed to work but, well it does seem to from what I've experienced.
Granted, I haven't run any bench tests and I am only using 44.1 so maybe higher reso will break it, don't know.
At any rate, at least you can use the equipment until the fix comes.