Fuck Guns!!!

[siriusbliss]

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature ... ology.html

Yes, Dr. Paul is the guy.

Greg

[garyb]

http://www.thegunsource.com/Article.asp ... ns_at_Cost

what's more dangerous than guns is the medication that EVERY mass murderer has been on recently. ALL of these shooters were on seratonin uptake inhibitors. these drugs cause one to live in a false reality(dreamlike). they are meant for short term use. it's known that suicidal and murderous thoughts become very powerful after long term use, especially if one suddenly stops taking them. all of this is part of the "give em drugs, quick fix" culture. as i said, EVERY mass shooter from Mcdonalds to Columbine to VT were on these drugs. the woman who put her babies in a burlap sack and drowned them like kittens was on them, the woman who stabbed herself up while naked on the roof of her house was on them, the wrestler who killed his family and then himself was on them....

add to this, who many of these people had been involved with and who their doctors were(hint: what special behavioral institution is run out of the virginia school?), the way that police did absolutely NOTHING while these guys were allowed to complete their task(same in columbine).....

what? "conspiracy theories"? the guys in charge would NEVER allow mass murder! well, except of course in florida where a whole town of black folks were given syphillis and studied instead of cured, or when they put soldiers in front of nuclear blasts in Nevada along with pigs, goats and chickens to see what would happen and how long they would live, or that time that nerve gas was released in the NYC subway and the dead studied.......oh yeah, and except for when three buildings came down iunder suspicious circumstances...

[siriusbliss]

http://www.thegunsource.com/Article.asp ... ns_at_Cost

what's more dangerous than guns is the medication that EVERY mass murderer has been on recently. ALL of these shooters were on seratonin uptake inhibitors. these drugs cause one to live in a false reality(dreamlike). they are meant for short term use. it's known that suicidal and murderous thoughts become very powerful after long term use, especially if one suddenly stops taking them. all of this is part of the "give em drugs, quick fix" culture. as i said, EVERY mass shooter from Mcdonalds to Columbine to VT were on these drugs. the woman who put her babies in a burlap sack and drowned them like kittens was on them, the woman who stabbed herself up while naked on the roof of her house was on them, the wrestler who killed his family and then himself was on them....

add to this, who many of these people had been involved with and who their doctors were(hint: what special behavioral institution is run out of the virginia school?), the way that police did absolutely NOTHING while these guys were allowed to complete their task(same in columbine).....

what? "conspiracy theories"? the guys in charge would NEVER allow mass murder! well, except of course in florida where a whole town of black folks were given syphillis and studied instead of cured, or when they put soldiers in front of nuclear blasts in Nevada along with pigs, goats and chickens to see what would happen and how long they would live, or that time that nerve gas was released in the NYC subway and the dead studied.......oh yeah, and except for when three buildings came down iunder suspicious circumstances...

No way man, I'll just take everything at face value, and believe everything the bought-n-paid-for media tells me. That way I don't have to think for myself. I can then live a life of ignorance and bliss, and all will be wine and roses.

And I'll just continue to buy into the 'official' conspiracy story that some guys from Afghanistan actually knew how to fly planes with such precision into buildings, and that jet fuel really burns hot enough, long enough, to bring down buildings directly into their own footprint.

Ahhhhhhhh.....it's all explained for me, so all is OK now...

Now, where's that picture of Britney Spears' crotch???

[darkrezin]

I have to agree with Gary regarding anti-depressants. They are fucked up and evil. My dad was prescribed several types including Prozac, and they all made the depression much worse. I'm a depressive myself but I'd never touch any anti-depressant pharmaceutical.

[siriusbliss]

I have to agree with Gary regarding anti-depressants. They are fucked up and evil. My dad was prescribed several types including Prozac, and they all made the depression much worse. I'm a depressive myself but I'd never touch any anti-depressant pharmaceutical.

Yes, and I hope you never will.

Keep track of the blood sugar and such, and you should be OK.

I have a friend that had a lot of problems getting OFF a prescription. These drugs are WAY more addictive than most so-called illegal substances.

It's a scam and a shame.

Greg

OH, and stay off the sodas that are highly dosed with aspartame and other brain modifiers. VERY bad stuff.

[darkrezin]

Yep, aspartamine is so wrong. It's quite scary how people with some weird idea of staying 'healthy' have been conditioned to think that Diet Coke is good for them. I stay away from cheap, crap food as much as possible. Hydrogenated fats is another bad one (most of the bread that people eat in the UK is full of it). It just astounds me what kinds of utter shit it's legal to sell as food.

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[siriusbliss]

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature ... ology.html

Greg

[next to nothing]

http://www.thegunsource.com/Article.asp ... ns_at_Cost

what's more dangerous than guns is the medication that EVERY mass murderer has been on recently. ALL of these shooters were on seratonin uptake inhibitors. these drugs cause one to live in a false reality(dreamlike). they are meant for short term use. it's known that suicidal and murderous thoughts become very powerful after long term use, especially if one suddenly stops taking them. all of this is part of the "give em drugs, quick fix" culture. as i said, EVERY mass shooter from Mcdonalds to Columbine to VT were on these drugs. the woman who put her babies in a burlap sack and drowned them like kittens was on them, the woman who stabbed herself up while naked on the roof of her house was on them, the wrestler who killed his family and then himself was on them....

add to this, who many of these people had been involved with and who their doctors were(hint: what special behavioral institution is run out of the virginia school?), the way that police did absolutely NOTHING while these guys were allowed to complete their task(same in columbine).....

what? "conspiracy theories"? the guys in charge would NEVER allow mass murder! well, except of course in florida where a whole town of black folks were given syphillis and studied instead of cured, or when they put soldiers in front of nuclear blasts in Nevada along with pigs, goats and chickens to see what would happen and how long they would live, or that time that nerve gas was released in the NYC subway and the dead studied.......oh yeah, and except for when three buildings came down iunder suspicious circumstances...

Drugs dont kill people (besides yourself), people do. its my RIGHT to take drugs to make my mental health proper.

Most of the victims killed in these incidents were off drugs. if just ONE of the students was high on crystal ice, he would have rebelled and ripped the throat of the gunman, as he wouldnt feel no pain and just get more endorphines/adrenalin running around his system. a lot of studies will show this (even if all studies basically is wrong, as every bit of education is ELITE based.).

And as the events moved on, DO YOU tHINK ITS A COINCIDENCE no vets shot an amphetamine loaded dart into, 1 or 10 students? NO! its because the ELITE controls the vets, and these are just effective ways to control population.

this clearly has nothing to do with gun control, as all gunmen were terrible criminals who ofcourse got their guns in a cunning illegal way. theres nothing safer than heving to answer "yes" or "no" on a sheet of paper asking if you smoke marijuhana or not. fool proof.

If you take away these pills from the public, the criminals will still have access! You are just brainwashed by the internet and we are the only free ones.

[next to nothing]

and on another note, dont you find it the least bit fishy that one company runs (in their own words) 100 websites selling guns? and even if this is a new page, please see my reply on the former page (in case you didnt).

And on a more serious note, as to "How the police did nothing". Have you ever tried taking a shot outdoors to pin down a gunman in a group of people, thru a window? its possible, but absolutley not an easy task. and on a hypothetical note, it would be even harder if you had 100 armed students hunting eachother in a panic situation.

[siriusbliss]

and on another note, dont you find it the least bit fishy that one company runs (in their own words) 100 websites selling guns? and even if this is a new page, please see my reply on the former page (in case you didnt).

And on a more serious note, as to "How the police did nothing". Have you ever tried taking a shot outdoors to pin down a gunman in a group of people, thru a window? its possible, but absolutley not an easy task. and on a hypothetical note, it would be even harder if you had 100 armed students hunting eachother in a panic situation.

key word being hypothetical.

In the case of Colorado, several police came forward (and/or were fired) for saying that they were told to stand down.

let's see if they stand down when Rush I-am-not-a-pedophile-who-enjoys-trips-to-Haiti-with-'the boys' Limbaugh incites riotes at the Democratic Convention.

Often the one who benefits the most IS the culprit.

re: drugs - yeah, perhaps only the criminals would get now- LEGAL pharmaceuticals if they were made illegal, but currently we're brainwashed by (Yes) eilitist media running endless drug commercials that don't do anything but cause more side-symptoms. Prohibition doesn't work either.

I am not brainwashed by the internet or anyone else - well OK, I'm a Scope junkie, but go figure....

Greg

[garyb]

next to nothing...
that response was quite emotional.
what i said was that psychoactive drugs improperly administered will create monsters. a monster may or may not use a gun. it's the monsters you should fear, and whether you believe it or not, ALL of those killers were on seratonin uptake inhibitors, or had recently quit cold turkey.

the police could have easily stopped that guy, just like at columbine the police did nothing as ordered.

what organization studies behavior and mind control at VT?

[next to nothing]

yes i was emotional. it was also a bit of comedy/irony in there somewhere.

on another note, beside the meds, do you see another thing they had in common? like something that spits out bullets at very high speed, perfectly legally bought?
Did you do some research on the buisniss i linked to, which itself has almost 2 web outlets pr. US state (in which you order a gun, fill out a form claiming you are "OK!" to own a gun when u pick it up at the local shack?

Did you ever consider that the total passivisation shown by the students, sitting by the desks while the gunman shoots one-by-one (at their desks) MIGHT be a big picture of the passive, non-involvilng, i-dont-have-a-gun-i-cant-do-anything-society you live in?

[next to nothing]

btw, i was supposed to change back to "piddi" long time ago, but due to some database wingdings the "username is (still) taken", so im perfectly ok if you want to refer to that for conveniance

[MikeRaphone]

Ok i am back

Gary, i think you missed the point, NTN simply made a travesty, he took your arguments about guns and replaced the word "gun" with "psychoactive drug", probably as to point out how absurd it sounds...
BTW, have you ever thought of a possibility that you wanting a gun, thinking that you are entitled to have one, and actually owing one is a part of "their" mind control over you? Then, one day they will just remote steer you into fulfilling "their" hellish plan. Think Rwanda!

ooooooh, Spoooky

p.s. this is all just hypothetical of course

[Shroomz~>]

Hey piddi, you were always piddi, even when you became Piddi the 2nd.


edit - Mike beat me to it.


{/OT} erm yes, guns, get'um fired up & tally-ho..

[next to nothing]

on point Mike, and to be a bit more specific, if you compare alot of countries around the world, be it U.S. or Norway for that mattr, a Gun is the most Psychoactive drug there is, if mixed in right doses of nationalism, fucked up politics and fear.


Good night, and good luck.

[garyb]

how many times must i say it?

IF THE QUEEN AND PAUL MCCARTNEY NEED GUNS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, SO DO I. WHEN THE POLICE, SOLDIERS AND CELEBRITIES GET RID OF THEIR GUNS, DISARMING MIGHT BE A REALITY.

no, the point is NOT well taken. the powers that be are trying to disarm me through YOU.

what arguement did he turn around? i didn't make an arguement FOR guns when i discussed the mass murderers being on psychoactive drugs, i simply pointed out that certain "mood elevators' are DIRECTLY responsible for monstrous behavior. guns are neutral monster-wise. the gun has never caused someone to become a monster, although a monster witha gun is a horrible thing. what i said was, BETTER TO NOT MAKE MONSTERS, than to ban guns, if safety is the prime concern. in fact, to go a little further, 30 years ago, half of that student body at VT WOULD have been armed and the tradgedy would have been minimized.

there's no need to be so frightened. with or without a gun, you are quite murderable. you will NOT save yourself through your fear or by putting your head into the sand.

you will NOT get guns out of the hands of criminals through a ban. the government can NOT protect you from crime, period.

look, just stay the hell out of my private life. take your cameras and your detention centers and your paranoia(yes YOUR paranoia...MY paranoia doesn't try to control your actions) and SHOVE it. you can't protect yourself from your brothers and sisters through banning all sharp objects. you will NOT find security in this, even if it looks like it now. history proves this, giving up freedom and responsibility to the state only brings tyrranny.

[garyb]

on point Mike, and to be a bit more specific, if you compare alot of countries around the world, be it U.S. or Norway for that mattr, a Gun is the most Psychoactive drug there is, if mixed in right doses of nationalism, fucked up politics and fear.


Good night, and good luck.

it's not the guns causing all that. the gun is just a tool. without guns there are tasers and microwaves and sound cannons and water cannons(all lethal), not to mention knives, swords, arrows, spears, rocks, nuclear bombs and bunker busters. there are chemicals that can be sprayed from planes. taking away my handgun and/or rifle will not change the political situation. you make it sound like people just decide to start a war on their own! that's not how it happens AT ALL.....

[siriusbliss]

on point Mike, and to be a bit more specific, if you compare alot of countries around the world, be it U.S. or Norway for that mattr, a Gun is the most Psychoactive drug there is, if mixed in right doses of nationalism, fucked up politics and fear.


Good night, and good luck.

it's not the guns causing all that. the gun is just a tool. without guns there are tasers and microwaves and sound cannons and water cannons(all lethal), not to mention knives, swords, arrows, spears, rocks, nuclear bombs and bunker busters. there are chemicals that can be sprayed from planes. taking away my handgun and/or rifle will not change the political situation. you make it sound like people just decide to start a war on their own! that's not how it happens AT ALL.....

exactly.
And comingling a fear of guns (or whatever it is) with 'love' of guns, or brainwashed into believing in guns (or however it was cloaked) is NOT THE POINT.

Getting rid of baseball bats will not protect you. More people die in automobile accidents than guns hands down, so maybe you should quit driving? Wait for them to make cars, bats, knives, hockey sticks, etc. all illegal? Because of some false, unrealistic ideology? FOrget it.

Believing in a RIGHT to own guns is not 'loving guns', or 'living in a gun society'.

Get over it and wake up that perhaps YOUR FEAR (or concern, or ideology, or whatever) may be part of the counter-brainwashing.

ANd speaking of cameras, etc. - wait until you (who have nothing to hide) get caught mistakenly in the cross-fire of a crime, and YOU get arrested and are forced to defend yourself. It's already happened.

You can call me paranoid - if you're afraid (or ideological), but believe me, I'm not paranoid, or even that afraid - just mostly PREPARED.

Greg

[garyb]

a RIGHT to own guns is not 'loving guns', or 'living in a gun society'.

thank you.

not having the right to own a gun, when guns exist, is living under totalitarianism...