Next American President?

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:28 pm

Piddi, Americans are also by and large against all of this stuff. that's why the president and congress have less than 20% approval ratings...

Kosovo and Clinton were mentioned because since then, American forces have been under UN jurisdiction, as they STILL are.

there are several levels and organizations to the bigger system. it's important for there to be disagreemant and debate publically, to maintain the illusion of freedom. in private, all of the power structure agrees with the current state of affairs, regardless of the public's(european or american or any other public) opinion.

as i said, i'm speaking from DOCUMENTED sources. who controls your country's money? guess what, they control my country's money as well. your opinion doesn't matter one bit, as long as you are willing to accept at least one of the explanations in the newspapers and on tv, and although i'm sure you'll be offended by what i'm saying, i'm not saying it to be offensive. you have been and will continue to be lied to. THERE IS NO TERROR THAT IS NOT GOVERNMENT SPONSERED. THERE ARE NO INDEPENDANT SOVERIEGN STATES, THE GOVERNMENT IS NOW WORLDWIDE, although we are still allowed the illusion of seperate states for the moment.

we are at war with eastasia, no, we are at war with eurasia. oh, it doesn't matter, the ministry of information and the ministry of love will be working together to make sure you are pacified. who we are at war with today will be down the memory hole tomorrow. the important thing is to GET GOLDSTEIN!!!!(he's a dirty terrorist)

and it's easy to ignore the bohemian grove, a place that had half a chapter dedicated to it in Helmut Schmidt's book "Men and Powers"(all about how wonderful world government and the rockefellors are when mated to this ancient ritual grove). ignoring it is the really bad choice, however. here is a place, which by the organization's own admissions, is all about bypassing 'democracy" and is a place for the elite of the world to worship the ancient caananite deity Molech, practice(mock) human sacrifice, plan people's lives, get drunk, f*ck eachother(literally), and eliminate their worldly cares through fire. when you really see what goes on at the grove, you'll know that all of politics really IS theater. when humans die in war, the dead are "sacrifices" to these ancient gods. if you doubt it, you just need to listen to the language(a soldier is said to have committed the ultimate act of "sacrifice", which according to Aleister Crowley is a human, blood sacrifice. all battle feilds are consecrated ground for the goddess and most national burial grounds have the goddess guarding the entrance, for the dead are hers, traditionally). if you saw these ceremonies, you wouldn't believe them to be serious, they look so silly with their red and black robes, but they have been filmed and as i said, i have documents proving them to be real, even bragging that the UN was set up by members. why do you think that M. Blasvatsky's(who was a favorite of the Nazi SS) student Alice Bailey's organization the Lucifer Trust(now called the Lucis Trust) is the printing arm of the UN? yep, they look like a bunch of silly clowns, but they really are serious. most Human beings can't even imagine the horrible things that these guys think to be cool.....

petal · Post by **petal** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:40 pm

Gary, if you really can prove all this, because you mention that a lot, why don't you just do exactly that?

The stories you tell us are so far out that the name "Ockham" comes to mind.

Gary, I think it's time - show us the money

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:45 pm

garyb wrote: EU subjects, why do you think all of the EU countries are always passing the same laws at about the same time(like anti terrorist laws, for example) if you still live in soveriegn states? could it be that the world government trumps your own local laws and your elected leaders only rule to the extent that they tow the line(of course that's how it is! just read these "trade agreements")?

Well i don't consider myself an EU subject but i totally agree with what you're saying. Basically the UK Government have been 'tidying up' parts of the EU constition without our promised referendum. Of course these 'unimportant' changes don't require the promised referendum because they don't individually constitute signing everything over to the EU.

However Labour have learned to spin like no others before them and are gradually taking us over to a federal Europe by these small 'tidying' operations that don't require the promised referndum. BTW, did i mention that we were promised a referendum?

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:42 pm

petal wrote:Gary, if you really can prove all this, because you mention that a lot, why don't you just do exactly that?

The stories you tell us are so far out that the name "Ockham" comes to mind.

Gary, I think it's time - show us the money

sorry, i can't post rare books on an internet message board. if you want to come here for a week, we can go over it.

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:43 pm

better yet, do your own research....

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:44 pm

the info is plenty for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.....

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:46 pm

but most don't want to know the truth.....

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:49 pm

so even if you had seen proof of a 45 foot tall statue of molech, you wouldn't believe it anyway....

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:54 pm

but Aldous knows. his brother was a founder of the British Secret Service....

http://tribes.tribe.net/infobunker/thre ... b536806767

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:02 pm

H. M. Carl XVI Gustaf, King of Sweden is a member as are the Bushes and Mr. Clinton and Jimmy Carter and so many more.....

petal · Post by **petal** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:04 pm

Thanks for the material Gary.

I'll give it a good look tomorrow.

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:22 pm

For anyone that actually thought the recent Bin Laden video was real and for bit of humour check the real Bin Laden video - the way the current events are inserted over a video glitch is very funny.

dawman · Post by **dawman** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:19 pm

I liked him better when he wore different clothes. I noticed that he always has the same garb on in these videos. The fact he was using the liberal left's talking points was comical as well. Even funnier, I have a Sunni friend here in Vegas who is an acrobat from Riyahd. He says that Bin Laden isn't even saying the things the media claims he is. He also said he sounds sick, and complains about muslims working with our troops. The media makes no mention of that. The fact that our troops can't find him, a 6'6" arab in Pakistan, is insulting. We found everyone else. I guess ol' Bin is just too tall.

BTW GaryB, My Brotha', Are You Frustrated ? Why The Annoyingly Large Shots That Make Me Scroll For 50 feet ?!!?

Mr Arkadin · Post by **Mr Arkadin** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:25 pm

scope4live wrote:The fact that our troops can't find him, a 6'6" arab in Pakistan, is insulting. We found everyone else. I guess ol' Bin is just too tall.

Likewise i find it odd that herion export has gone UP since we invaded Afghanistan - how difficult is it to police the ports/airports and hoe difficult would it be to fly a recon plane and find giant fields of red poopies and napalm the lot? You have to wonder why they are not doing this - you'd almost think they want people to become addled-brain herion addicts

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PS. Yes maybe a resize is in order gary, this thread is getting difficult to read. Those shots (from the '20s, '30s?) of Bohemian Grove look exactly like the secretly shot video i've seen - very spooky.

Post by **garyb** » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:58 pm

i just thought people needed bigger evidence....

but of course i can resize it....

that old shot is a postcard taken by the man who was the official camp photographer. his name was Gabriel Moulin. the picture was taken soon after the Owl was sculpted by Haig Patigian who was president from 1920-1922 and from 1926-1927. the owl was sculpted in 1929. it really resembles the owl that was in the film by Alex Jones because they are the same owl and it is real. the text in the annals is identical to the filmed ceremony. what was it they always said in twin peaks, a tv show about something sinister in a small town in the northwest? "the Owls are not what they seem..."

MikeRaphone · Post by **MikeRaphone** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:55 am

Maybe some other angle might be in order

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesameri ... e_spy.html

Post by **hubird** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:49 am

quite revealing

Post by **garyb** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:52 am

yes, just masters of the universe at camp. they're just having a good time!

one error in the article, it's not a "right-wing" thing, although there are more republicans than democrats, it a power thing, political, economic and magical...

next to nothing · Post by **next to nothing** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:19 am

hello again

regarding the kosovo bit, i guess you are referring to when the operation went from a so called "peace-making" operation to a so called "peace keeping" one. these are usually under UN jurisdiction, nothing new there. please also check out how many troops actually stayed there after the "handover"

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Regarding EU, please dont confuse this with Europe. Norway's not THAT welcome in the white house anymore

Besides, EU is probably removing the "anti-terror" liquid restriction on airplanes! now THATS progress!

Post by **garyb** » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:51 am

cheers, piddi!

about Kosovo-
what you are not understanding is that ALL american troops are now UN troops, since Kosovo. period. this is not overtly so in all cases, but technically it's true, because the presidential order which transferred the power to the UN has never been reversed. perhaps you are aquainted with the idea of good cop/bad cop? the EU or the UN plays "good cop"(oh, you poor suffering people!) and says "you better come to order or we won't be able to keep those mean nasty bad cops(the USA) from beating the snot out of you!"........

as i said, NONE of this is my opinion. the things i am stating are matters of fact, that are and can be documented.