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that's true. Israelis don't mess around, and they have the hardware needed to kick ass.

it's all quite tragic. Iranians are not bad people by nature and neither are Israelis. the Palestinians are no worse than the Dutch, who supported Hitler's imprisonment and destruction of homosexuals, the retarded, gypsies and jews. the sad thing is that those that lead all these groups seem hell-bent on destruction.

Now we know why God goes after Trailer Parks with Tornados...

Hey I heard Hillary has gone to Middle East to "negotiate."
Should have sent Susan Rice, she's an excellent liar, has the look you in the eye thing down pat, no blinking, etc.
Plus if they disagree with her, that means Israelis and Gazainians, or whatever they are, will be racists,..... then we can kill as we did in Libya for the sake of Human Rights...or at least use that "War On Women" excuse that we use here......

Just a personal token on how this looks from here...
This looks to me like only two parties stand to gain from this war:
The Likud (Netanyahus party) and the Hamas.
Netanyahu is using the palestinians to secure his re-election, and the Hamas is helping netanyahu, as his figure helps their cause more than someone from the left.

Both extremes washing each other's hands to provide selfish needs of power.
The masses are totally blinded by their fireworks and they want to see blood, on both sides.
sad, but this is the nature of human kind. short sighted, and hungry for power.

i tried resisting this thread but i couldn't.
yes i am weak sometimes XD

thanks brother-man. i agree with that assessment.

ReD_MuZe wrote:The masses are totally blinded by their fireworks and they want to see blood, on both sides.
sad, but this is the nature of human kind. short sighted, and hungry for power.

And they know it very well, that's how they control people's minds and will so easily!

With a few friends of mine when we were children thought how we would do to stop war, just kidding and laughing about, and we thought that it would be impossible for those in power to go on with wars if the whole of their forces would say NO to war and all soldiers would drop their weapons to the floor, becoming friends of each other with the enemy. That would be great!

But… this is not going to happen because people are focused in believing these arguments which in fact come from a hidden agenda which is well behind the apparent, hatred is deep enrooted already in people’s lives, and so is materialism.

The NWO and their plans are possible only because we have given them the chance to rise into power and stand there controlling all human activities, we have believed them and unfortunately the mass still believes in them.

One of the most obvious ways of surrendering to their control is being so blind as to suggest that they don’t exist, for instance! Wow, it’s like living in top of a rock while you are shouting “there is not such a rock; there is no such a rock”, it’s amazing after thousands of proves of their crude existence and domination of the world. There is an old tell that says: “When the devil achieves to make you believe he does not exist it is because he has already won the battle”.

The globalists have done a study of people’s ways, preferences and cultures, and they know how to use this knowledge to their advantage: believes, religions, tendencies, cultural affections, ideologies, philosophies, everything is used when needed to achieve their goals with easy, exactly as a commercial does to sell you goods that you don’t need but nevertheless, you buy.

But beware, there are many forces in this game and not everything and everyone can be or will be managed with precision by the elites, great surprises await those in this run... There are many factors and many groups in between that will change the game once and over again, and the more they expose themselves to accomplish their plans in public, the more there will be resistance against their oligarchy

old school political cartoon. these were very popular in the 1800s...

even in the movie "it's a wonderful life" it seemed like people knew who their enemy was...

ReD_MuZe wrote:Just a personal token on how this looks from here...
This looks to me like only two parties stand to gain from this war:
The Likud (Netanyahus party) and the Hamas.
Netanyahu is using the palestinians to secure his re-election, and the Hamas is helping netanyahu, as his figure helps their cause more than someone from the left.

Both extremes washing each other's hands to provide selfish needs of power.
The masses are totally blinded by their fireworks and they want to see blood, on both sides.
sad, but this is the nature of human kind. short sighted, and hungry for power.

i tried resisting this thread but i couldn't.
yes i am weak sometimes XD

garyb wrote:

thanks brother-man. i agree with that assessment.

Me too.
Both parties using violence to hostage the people in the streets, just for the power.
We had that discussion before, and I remember the sensitive and wise contributions from some members from Israel, no ass kissing here.

That's why I protested against the simple posting of the damage pictures.
Playing on sentiments without any chance it will bring the level further.
I could have posted idem pictures of the damage by Hamas, but I would lower my level to that of the poster of the former pictures.

Some conspiracy adepts love simple relationships, like banks-Jews-Elite-Zionism.
Looks like someone here trapped into that stupid 'analysis', or - more probably - doesn't know the implementation of his forum behavior.

or maybe you just are reading extra things into the posting.

Could be.
But then why posting those pictures without posting some of the Hamas attacks?
It's useless to post both, but without detailed explanation it's quite explosive to post only attacks from one side.
Look, I don't step into the trap of 'they begon'.
The history of violence is too long for that.
What we need is wisdom.
Amos Oz, who started a petition today, is one of those who speak from the heart, just like Red Muze.
Take this:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 81,00.html
cheers.

I like very much these old school political cartoon because they say so much without using words and go directly to reach a precise feeling in you that would be hard to explain without a draw or a painting.

Yes, the world goes on…, fortunately nothing lasts forever and neither will them…

She is saying: "This is a shame, I don't want to watch it"

level: zero.

just now we are getting somewhere...

How serious a consideration must be for the Italian Supreme Court to call for an full investigation on the 9/11 attack, the NWO assassins behind it are in trouble after all, this is the kind of people I was talking about:

http://911blogger.com/news/2012-11-19/i ... gation-icc


Here a slight idea of what could mean for the global economy the making of the next big war, roughly...

Putting a price tag on war with Iran:

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/15/world ... +Recent%29

Hubird, is it really necessary to have a sig 'protecting' all of PlanetZ's @guests from Nestor's rant in a single thread in the OT section? Many people visiting here for Scope related reasons would never even know this thread existed, but there's your sig regardless. Silly...

Valis, considering the attention this thread gets, check the number of views and distract the number of posters

I consciously left the signature out of this thread, to avoid distraction from the content.
It's a stupid routine to do, but I did.

this time I couldn't resist, an open goal so to say.
You noticed the picture of the book by Rockefeller "All we need is the right MAJOR CRISIS< and the nations will accept the new world order"?
too close too call

I myself at least also noticed the timing of that book post.
As if he bundles the trible forces when there's some understanding involved (like I felt it)

So it was played hard, and to me it's clear: there should never be an end to this, the black message has to be told anyway.

A signature then is a perfect solution for this situation.
First because it makes it easier to concentrate on the content and spare time.
And secondly, it allows me to disassociate myself from the views ánd style presented without spending too much time on it.
It's not the only signature of the kind if I'm right.

Geez, when even the nuts picture can't change one's mind than there's something seriously wrong with his attitude, I'm sorry to say. Not to speak about the other signals, softly expressed.

If it's so important to spread the message, then it is for me.
I don't think you wanne blame me for that

Back to the signature.
These are the elements:
Obsessive, not by everyone, the admin (especially for unknowing guests), and him not speaking for Planetz Forum.

The word obsessive is well consciously chosen....I'm sure we (anybody) agree about the obsessive part, don't we?
Yes, there was 'obsessive' to different degrees...yet I would scratch my head if even my best friends would refer to that qualification
Fact enough for those small alarm bells back in your head...

The signature as it is leaves everyone free to think what he or she wants.
It gives factual information with an intended implicit message, on which one agrees or not.
The blame, if any, will always be on me.

I'm not hateful tho, I'm the first one to even change the signature in it's counterpart, if there would be a reason to do so.

Respect.

hubird, i think you have your own agenda which is at least equal to what you say about Nestor...

Dear Ken, all my respects for you!

Does this mean we wont be seeing tha Haswell CPU....?

garyb wrote:
hubird, i think you have your own agenda which is at least equal to what you say about Nestor...

Since he seems to see so many 'followers' here that need to be saved, I suppose it's fitting you at least have more than one option of savior eh?