From Windows 7

[braincell]

Hi Greg,

The sample rate thing is specific to Cubase. Ralf patched it.

How is my Luna configured? I don't understand. By the way, I use the Scope Home S/PDIF so this doesn't really matter to me.

[garyb]

i have a pulsar1 and a Scope pro and neither have an sp/dif problem.

[siriusbliss]

Hi Greg,

The sample rate thing is specific to Cubase. Ralf patched it.

How is my Luna configured? I don't understand. By the way, I use the Scope Home S/PDIF so this doesn't really matter to me.

Yes, you said that the Scope home is working, but I think I remember some Luna owners dealing with cable choices effecting the crazy mini-jack SPDIF on the old Lunas/PowerSamplers. Stereo or mono-jack? good quality cable (with shielding), or junky cable? Length of cable? etc.

You know, just some usual questions that arise.

And yes, the mini-jack SPDIF was a crazy design choice, considering I've never seen this non-standard interfaced used anywhere before or since. Looking at the PCB, I remember seeing that they simply didn't have room for an RCA jack.

Ahhhhh....the good ol' days...

Greg

[Shroomz~>]

And yes, the mini-jack SPDIF was a crazy design choice, considering I've never seen this non-standard interfaced used anywhere before or since. Looking at the PCB, I remember seeing that they simply didn't have room for an RCA jack.

I know this is a bit pedantic, but the mini-jack SPDIF format is actually pretty common on everything from older portable digital recorders to computers & laptops (including some of Apple's range which is one of the reasons for those little mini-jack to toslink adapters you can buy). It's really just having the input & output on a single mini-jack socket that's unusual. It would have been nice to have just had it on a SPDIF expansion option like the Luna ADAT one. Then there would have been plenty space for coaxial sockets.

Having said all that, we never use the SPDIF on our 3dsp cards, only ADAT, Z-link & occasionally the analogue I/Os.

[siriusbliss]

And yes, the mini-jack SPDIF was a crazy design choice, considering I've never seen this non-standard interfaced used anywhere before or since. Looking at the PCB, I remember seeing that they simply didn't have room for an RCA jack.

I know this is a bit pedantic, but the mini-jack SPDIF format is actually pretty common on everything from older portable digital recorders to computers & laptops (including some of Apple's range which is one of the reasons for those little mini-jack to toslink adapters you can buy). It's really just having the input & output on a single mini-jack socket that's unusual. It would have been nice to have just had it on a SPDIF expansion option like the Luna ADAT one. Then there would have been plenty space for coaxial sockets.

Having said all that, we never use the SPDIF on our 3dsp cards, only ADAT, Z-link & occasionally the analogue I/Os.

Yes, I have one of the Toslink adapters somewhere, but can't even find it.
I really only used to use this card for monitoring in a back room (analog), and for extra ADAT (and the extra DSP). The SPDIF was used IIRC for capturing from a turntable on occasion.

Greg

[braincell]

I just read an account of drastically reduced audio latency under windows 7. Since my latency is pretty horrid (16 ms), I'm going to try Windows 7 tonight on my DAW. I will back up everything first. I will be doing an upgrade from Vista. A clean install would be better but I don't feel like installing the music software again. It takes a long time to do and there is a chance something important won't function.

Is the Luna jack a stereo or a mono jack?

[siriusbliss]

I just read an account of drastically reduced audio latency under windows 7. Since my latency is pretty horrid (16 ms), I'm going to try Windows 7 tonight on my DAW. I will back up everything first. I will be doing an upgrade from Vista. A clean install would be better but I don't feel like installing the music software again. It takes a long time to do and there is a chance something important won't function.

Is the Luna jack a stereo or a mono jack?

I believe it's mono with shield - hence the weirdness of bi-direction spdif. But I'm not entirely sure anymore.
Probably a good quality cable with shielding would help.

By the way, are you hanging out here?
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/For ... y/w7itpro/

Greg

[braincell]

I thought it may be an in and an out on one jack. I didn't know there was a low impedance mini cable.

Not yet I'll check it out.

[garyb]

for the sp/dif connector on the luna, you need a mini phone stereo to two rca adaptor like this:

[braincell]

So it is an in and an out. I see.

[siriusbliss]

for the sp/dif connector on the luna, you need a mini phone stereo to two rca adaptor like this:

or plug the jack in half-way
<just kidding>

Greg

[Shroomz~>]

This type is probably the best Gary. It leaves you with more space at the back of the card & shouldn't put as much stress on the Luna/powersampler card's socket. You would want a high quality one for SPDIF.

[Fede]

since no one said it yet: spdif requires 75 Ω cable for impedance matching.

Fede

[garyb]

which is why i didn't suggest the adaptor with the cables, but it's probably not a big deal as long as you use the 75Ω digital cable(like how i hijacked the ohm[mega] symbol, since i don't know the key stroke? ).

otherwise, yes, a cable y adaptor has the stated advantages.

[braincell]

I tried Windows 7 and it isn't any better for audio latency at least in the beta version.

[valis]

Win7-64 gives me the same performance as Vista-64, which is to say only marginally higher cpu usage @ the same latency+samplerates I use in Xp-32. I'm not sure what else you were expecting?

[braincell]

Someone else posted a drastic difference. There must have been other issues he didn't know about on his machine. Windows 7 seems the same as Vista to me. Maybe people just like it because it isn't named "Vista" haha!

[siriusbliss]

Alfonso, I'm ready to vocode some bass-pedal minimoog with the tuba in a frock - just say the word

That would be very funny.....I'm sorry I hacked this thread a bit but I was misplaced by a post about Xite marketing and for a moment i thought I was in another thread...

Maybe I'll make another thread about it, but I'm serious when i say that nothing would be better of a live music show. Let's be honest, if it wasn't for some wishful z members, no video has been shot by HC, no articles, nothing. It's obvious that SC in this moment doesn't have the resources to do some things that would be indispensable in any commecial enterprise. You have to push forward hard in this world, no one moves a finger for nothing, SC can't hope to be on all the magazines and getting public raves only because the product is very good.
The alternative is not between masses of buyers and a niche share, but between a modest but consistent portion of the market and nothing. Something has to be done, otherwise ancient problems might reappear.
It was inspiring to see Gary B in a video condensing for the first time some real features in an understandable way, correct English, in a small video, which has a plus in the freshness and instinctive sympathy it triggers in the spectator. I think the community has to move a little to supply ideas and initiatives to defend a bright future for a platform that is felt as indispensable.
The video was filling an awful gap.
I'm serious when I say that I would join a couple of guys in a live show at the Messe...if some German PlZ member who lives not far from there is wishing to help for a place to stay and to participate....if SC agrees obviously and can get the space and provide a minimum of P.A. and stage...

I think that a single Xite-1 can make an incredible performance and leave people speachless.
Last post in this thread about it, but i wanted to throw the stone....

SC should 'hire' Kraftwerk using only Xites!

Now, back to our regularly scheduled Win7 thread

Greg