CW looking for experienced OSX and Linux hackers

valis · Post by **valis** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:07 am

...waiting to beta test here...

Danimusik · Post by **Danimusik** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:43 pm

I would like a lot to be beta tester. I can send a curricullum or something.

blaze1st · Post by **blaze1st** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 4:53 am

Anything about a Linux Beta?
I would like to test it!
It was stated that this is a community project, so creamware should involve some developers and testers who are good at linux and are using CW stuff.

They said the linux driver would come, now there hasn't been any news recently about it.

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 5:52 am

there is a widely accepted general rule of thumb about software deadlines:

if there's an announcement, take the next higher time unit and multiply by 5

wsippel mentioned some experts telling a basic driver would be just a couple of weeks - resulting in 10 month according to the formular above

cheers, Tom

blazesboylan · Post by **blazesboylan** » Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:54 pm

But if you bring in management consultants to kick everyone's arses into high gear, you can get it done in less than... 20 months.

Johann

ksamus · Post by **ksamus** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 9:16 am

Hi
Creamware for OXS!!!! GREEEAT, but I'll belive when I'll see!
Crossplatform and compatibility with G4/5 OSX - is the only way to be a standatd in proaudio industry.
Macs are cheaper and cheaper, they are becaming more and more popular, especially in europe. Moreower most profesiolallists works on Macs. One of most powerfull progograms for musicians Logic is ONLY for mac (I know there is version 5.x, but...)As well as Digital Performer. Stainberg is taking focus on Macs. Creamware is THE only system NOT YET working under OSX. Even Sonic Studio is working under OSX!!! It's O.K if C.W. wants to be just for home or things like that (working with free aplications or bundeled with PC computers and selling in usually markets). But they have chance to become like DIGIDESIGN - just a world standard of quality, flexibility, innovations and comfort of working.

Best regards

Post by **hubird** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:20 am

c'mon, a pc is much cheaper...!

Vasfed · Post by **Vasfed** » Wed Jun 09, 2004 1:15 pm

Wow! At last!

I'm more interested in linux drivers, and even ready to join development team (i have lot of experience in windows programming (2nd ISEF award, Intel Best Use Of Computing 2003, ESI..., C/C++, Asm...), at most in designin os-in-os systems, not so much in linux but i'm going to study it)

My father is a compuser working with pulsar, of course his computer is on me and i'm already sick of windows

[ This Message was edited by: Vasfed on 2004-06-09 14:23 ]

ksamus · Post by **ksamus** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:09 am

hubrid
Thousends words were written what is better Mac or PC.
Maybe Mac is a little more expensive, (like ProTools is in compare with other audio systems). And it is a world standard. And I wonder why? The best audio software manufacters are focusing on Macs, and again: I wonder why? Moreover powerfull PC is not cheap. e.g. Carillion cost like mac, Gol even more. I don't know why most pro- musicians, studios working on macs. Some are working using mac 9600. Try find 7 years old PC working properelly. In my opinion macs are just better. And I'm not talking oabout powerhorse. If you are working using some DSP cards (Creamware, UAD, Powercore, ProTools HD) powerhorse of CPU it is not so important. First of all You will mix or play using DSP plugins, because most DSP plugins works better than native. Try compare Native waves and TDM waves or Minimax and other moog-like native synth!

So good PC made by good company is not cheaper. And first of all: I'm musician, not ingeneer or soft programmer and I don't want to spend my time on configuring bios settings, windows configurations or watching blue screen etc..
I stay with mac and waiting for SFP for OSX

samplaire · Post by **samplaire** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 4:32 am

Hubird is joking.

It is because you wrote things we know already for years. If you searched this forum you would have found such statements (to be honest, at least 2 AFAIK) like yours. If you searched this forum you'd have also found Hubird is on of the Mac defenders here

[ This Message was edited by: samplaire on 2004-06-14 05:35 ]

astroman · Post by **astroman** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 5:26 am

On 2004-06-14 05:09, ksamus wrote:
... and I don't want to spend my time on configuring bios settings, windows configurations or watching blue screen etc..
I stay with mac and waiting for SFP for OSX

open firmware and the underlying ux-ish OS kernel just brought you a lot closer to what you wanted to avoid...

welcome btw

but I couldn't resist

(and I sold and supported Macs for years...)

cheers, Tom

[ This Message was edited by: astroman on 2004-06-14 06:33 ]

wsippel · Post by **wsippel** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:42 am

First of all, sorry for the delay...

OK, a small status update, because there seem to be some things to clarify: The Linux driver by itself doesn't really help (same for OSX), as we know now. We need SFP, like the Windows and Mac version does. A low-level driver should be easy to implement, it's only a small communication module for SFP.
The problem is, Frank creates the NDA for the porters, and he's still busy with the SDK right now. He posted to our mailing list two weeks ago, telling us he would need some more time to create the paperwork for our project, but we hope to get going anytime soon.

Sorry for the inconvenience! I'll keep you posted as things progress!

PS: There's really no need to argue about operating systems, since most people seem little informed and very biased (no offense). I have seen more OSX crashes than BSOD's, my Windows test platform (Win2K) is fast and rock-solid, and I've seen not a single kernel panic (Linux crash) for more than three years, working daily on a state of the art system with bleeding edge drivers and core software components. Everyone should be able to use the system that suits their needs and taste, that's what this port is all about.

[ This Message was edited by: wsippel on 2004-06-14 08:52 ]

scary808 · Post by **scary808** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:40 pm

On 2004-06-14 08:42, wsippel wrote:

The problem is, Frank creates the NDA for the porters, and he's still busy with the SDK right now. He posted to our mailing list two weeks ago, telling us he would need some more time to create the paperwork for our project, but we hope to get going anytime soon.

[ This Message was edited by: wsippel on 2004-06-14 08:52 ]

I figured that both SDK as well as this project were being slowed down by the
legal stuff.

bassdude · Post by **bassdude** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 12:23 am

Thanks for the update wsippel. That explains why there isn't much dev chatter at the moment then.

Vasfed · Post by **Vasfed** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:27 am

wsippel,thanks for update

PS. have you received my letter?

Post by **hubird** » Mon Jun 21, 2004 4:17 pm

On 2004-06-14 05:09, ksamus wrote:
hubrid
Thousends words were written what ...etc...

more, Ksamus!

).

GrantMoney · Post by **GrantMoney** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:11 am

This is Awesome!! Put my name down for osx beta testing. I have a 1.5 15" powerbook and magma enclosure and would love to be able to use the pulsar with osx (hopefully AU drivers). I wish i could help

It would be great if we can get the i/o working (all i really use is the lightpipe i/o)

sym90 · Post by **sym90** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 12:19 pm

yeah, i would love to beta-test it too.

I own a powermac g4 dual 1.25 ghz osx boot, and i would love to test a pulsar2 under osx and give my reports...

sYm

MC · Post by MC » Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:16 pm

Wsippel et al, really Great news that someone has finally decided to get creamware sound cards (and hopefully apps)to work with Linux. Is there any site to get updates on this development. CW would be the logical place and hopefully someone at the company will discover the benefits in this.

MBSound · Post by **MBSound** » Sat Sep 25, 2004 1:30 pm

Any progress on the mac OSX capability for creamware products (as pulsar 2)???