word clock sync

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Mon May 19, 2003 12:03 pm

This has been discussed a million times now, but I don't seem to get it right.

I have a CW card, digital mixer and a synthesizer that has ADAT out (and word clock in ) connector. Problem is, how do I sync these. I know all the basics (just one master, other slaves)

Pulsar seems to sync (as slave) automatically using just ADAT connection, without sync plate (either to synth as master or mixer as master). So, if I have only two devices, no problems.

But the mixer seem not sync using just ADAT connector. And if I set mixer as master, and wire word clock to synths WC in, it doesn't work

)

And when I put all three machines, I have no idea how to set the wires. Should I hace BNC "cycle" or use two separate cables. Or make an "ethernet-like" connection using terminators. I have sync plate also.
Could somebody make this simple, thanks

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Mon May 19, 2003 12:59 pm

Well adat of mixer is out,so Pulsar can slave to that(set mixer as master)but the mixer can only be set to slave for wordclock.This means you need a syncplate or A16 which has wordclock,or anythink linked to pulsar with wordclock.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Tue May 20, 2003 9:17 am

Mixer has both ADAT in and ADAT out (and I use both of them).

Mixer can only slave to word clock? Why does it have Word clock out then?

I have sync plate, but the problem is, how do I connect all these devices.

Music Manic · Post by **Music Manic** » Tue May 20, 2003 3:28 pm

Sorry misread.
I had same prob with syncplate.The pulsar card your syncplate is set too,as master in panel,will use the syncplate as master or slave.So if you want syncplate as master,set pulsar card as master,if you want it as slave set mixer as master.Synplate should tell which is in and out.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Wed May 21, 2003 8:45 am

Still, the problem is, how do I connect all these devices.

As I said, I don't have problems syncing mixer to pulsar (or vice versa) but how to sync all three devices?

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sat May 24, 2003 3:19 am

Syncplate -> T-connector/Mixer -> Synth.

What kind of synth is it ?
(Most synths with adat out I know off only runs @ 48KHz, except Noah...)

Kim.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Sat May 24, 2003 8:15 am

Thanks for your help! Do I need use those terminators used in computer networks?

The synth is Alesis QS 8

it can sync to
* internal 44.1
* internal 48
* external 44.1
* external 48

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sat May 24, 2003 12:46 pm

I don't know if the QS8 has an internal terminator or not ?
If it doesn't, you need one...

Kim.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Sat May 24, 2003 3:42 pm

I'm giving up. No matter how do I set the cables and which device is master, I'm not getting any decent results.
The best result is when mixer and scope are synced (no matter which is master) and synthesizers is it's own master (the same clock rate of course). Believe it or not, this is giving the best results!
Of course, there some clicks and pops every now and then but a tleast I don't hear AWFUL noise and the sound is in tune (which it isn't if I try to sync the synth to external clock...)

Time to forget fucking digital connections.

kimgr · Post by **kimgr** » Sun May 25, 2003 7:28 am

Are the adat out of the QS8 connected to the mixer or the Pulsar card ?

Kim.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Mon May 26, 2003 12:58 am

Word clock:
[Terminator - T-connector]------ [T-connector]-------------[syncplate]

synth--------------mixer WC out--------------------scope

synth ADAT OUT -> mixer ADAT IN (a)
mixer ADAT OUT x2 -> Scope ADAT IN x2
Scope ADAT OUT -> mixer ADAT IN (b)

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: spoimala on 2003-05-26 02:04 ]</font>

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:20 pm

Problem solved. Another happy Jupiter8 customer.

spoimala · Post by **spoimala** » Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:35 pm

jupiter, you could have posted the solution. It is:
Use only ADAT sync. Set synth as master, mixer syncs to synth. And finally, Scope syncs to mixer. Great. Thanks Jupiter!

PS. If any DDX3216 user is having problems with syncing mixer to ADAT signal, it only syncs to first ADAT port (that is, ADAT in 1-8)

jupiter8 · Post by **jupiter8** » Fri Jun 13, 2003 9:26 am

Have'nt you heard the expression: suspension beyond belief.

(Jonny Depp in Ed Wood)

I thought i'd get you the pleasure of delivering the good news.

I did'nt think anyone would believe i actually solved anything.