singer setup ?

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nebelfuerst
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Since my early pulsar age, I just used synths. (external gear, and scope synths)
Now there is more and more request to have a singer for some tracks.
My DAW is attached by Adat. Currently I feed the channel of the mixer to the Adat port for recording.
For playback, I have an other channel in the mixer to set the effects and mix together.

If I forget to mute the playback-channel during recording, I get a sin() in my ears.

Is there a better element or strategy to do this ?
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Could you midi automate the buttons ?
If you press Record it mutes Playback automatically...
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Yes, I could do some midi-automatisation, but is this the way other scopers go ?
(Maybe I created a problem myself due to my setup..)
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It was the only simple solution that popped up without knowing your system in detail ;)
In fact it‘s likely you can avoid the feedback scenario by some different routing.
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don't monitor through the sequencer. monitor the Scope mixer. don't monitor the input on the sequencer. easy-peasy.
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If your outboard mixer is causing the feedback you could get a separate headphone mixer for the output mix. That way you don't need to be cognizant of the ITB routing. On my setup, input and output outboards have mostly been separate pieces of gear.
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maybe post a screenshot of your scope routing?
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Here's a picture of my latest approach.
The DAW is just for voice tracks.
At the end, it should also record the final mix.
Is this a common way to do it ?
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Is the monitor headphones or speakers ? Example of a loop back for mixdown here :-

https://www.scopeusers.com/ScopeRise/is ... cubase.htm
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There are lots of ways to do what you want in Scope. Put your recording engineer hat on and figure out what works best for you. Every single user here will probably give you a different answer. (different Scope hardware, DAWS and different external gear)
I like the STM-2448 as a default. Lots of routing options and low DSP.
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the most advanced setup would be to use a switch, to switch from microphone to daw inputs.
For the recording, the most convenient is to use a mixer with a "rec channel" where routing is made internally , or use an aux or bus to send signals to record to daw. After recording, you use the switch to change the source of the channel and keep the effects that you used during recording but without mixing them (such as aux reverb/delay), or you simply mix in the daw. in general effect for the recording session are just there as aux for monitoring and singer comfort, so they are not recorded but fine-tuned later. you could also record them on another track(s) than the dry voice.
I think I made such switches or "y crossfader" for free , it should be somewhere in the device section of this forum.
I hope it helps.
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