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garyb wrote:there has not been a city built in stone anywhere on this earth, where the buildings were not supported with blood.
Many root races have existed; the fifth one is the last one, the one which is yours and mine, so the fifth it is the most recent one. But our human race has existed for many more millions of years than most people may think it has, there are divisive proves that demonstrates it like some skulls found in several places of the world that are much older than anything expected when examined with carbon 14th dating, even if it is a pretty bad method when talking about extremely long periods of time. Anyway, this is a serious prove of our very old existence as human beings.

Yes Gary, fortunately, there have been cities built in goodwill and brotherhood where not a single drop of blood was shed in the land…, but we don’t any longer remember in our civilization this facts... Unfortunately, the ancient history of the world is not written in any Atlas or Larousse Encyclopedia, you will not find it there. It is rather the legacy of those who have never been taken seriously in this world, like the Mayan Elders for instance.

Yes, our very nature is wonderful deep down; we can be the best of the very best. Right now we are in trouble, destroying each other, that’s true, but I swear with all my heart that we have had splendid epochs where not even the shadow of the smallest violence could stain our souls. This is not a statement that I make out of romantic thoughts, as I said I took the trouble to study these things in depth, for many, many years already.

What I consider “romantic” nevertheless, is to believe that there is not an international war coming up soon, because we have lost these wonderful ancient values that made of us peaceful people.
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I guess that many people will be ridiculed after this next 21th of December 2012 as they have predicted “the end of the world” instated of some “changes”, which is what is going to happen as I said before.

The Maya themselves have never predicted the end of the world, they have only stated about the changes that ALWAYS occur cyclically, roughly, every 26 to 27.000 years, that’s all. If we want to know something we need to get to the sources getting rid of the interpreters and their distorted interests that get in between you and reality. This is what I have done myself and I can tell what the Maya Elders know themselves through THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION of the Maya Calendar and its symbolism:

“Not much is going to happen the 21th of December itself, physically speaking. What is going to happen is that we will receive and enormous amount of diverse cosmic energies we are not use to absorb in our human nature and these energies will cause for people to get even more nervous, angry and easily irritable than they already are. This will worsen the general situation of unsettlements, riots, protests, wars, etc., as it will turn our psychological state of mind much more prone to violence. You will see it by yourself, there is no need for you to believe in anything, you will experience all this first hand”.

Well, that was the easy part… “Through the following 30 years we will experience large scale natural catastrophes and extreme weather changes because of this special cosmic conjunction next to happen, and because of some other cosmic events also of important magnitude that are in their way like the visit of a gigantic planet that is already approaching us and is already pushing the poles of our planet to shift because of the force of its enormous gravity.

I couldn’t help and I have done a song called “21st of December - Time Reset” that you can listen at here:

http://forums.planetz.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=31581
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relax, nothing special will happen on 21 December.
What do Maya know about 'cosmic energy' and the consequences of it for human nature?
And why would I believe them?
Btw, natural catastrophes are natural, especially during a warming period...

And if the tension get's to high, check this picture posted by you a few pages back.
It'll make you feel good.
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We are almost there... what a cosmic moment! :D Wow!

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tower builders can kiss my butt. :lol:
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mmm...., for some reason I believe that it will be the other way around from tomorrow and on... :P

Out of jokes now, we are facing from now and on, 30 years of solar explosions without stop, seriously:

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The weather report today showed it was 60 degrees here, then tomorrow was Tsunamis, Earthquakes and Violent Tornades, and Saturday 68 degrees and sunny with a slight wind of 15mph from the North.
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there was a report on the news tonight that there have been recird numbers of grey whales migrating this year. the possible reason? early and extra ice in nothern seas....
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Nestor wrote: Out of jokes now, we are facing from now and on, 30 years of solar explosions without stop, seriously
I'd call that a joke...can you show us the sources for this prediction?

In the meanwhile: grab some knowledge about solar cycles before shouting:
http://www.klimaatgek.nl/cms/?Nieuwe_in ... Zonnecycli
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Oh Goody....more charts for raising taxes. :D
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Understandable reactions… Sure, not a soul will like to go through this and neither will I, but this is the panorama we are facing and reality ignores likes and dislikes, it just exists by itself and has no feelings to itself as it is not a human being, it is “facts” themselves. Reality it is not a philosophy neither a creed, it is not a believer and it has not a particular interest to itself, it is not a tendency of the moment, it is not fashion, it does not argue because there is nothing to discuss about, it is what it is!

These are the facts as they are by themselves:

* Massive riots in the whole of the world with unseen levels of violence will increase enormously, almost everywhere. In only a few years this problem will be widespread and unstoppable.

* War in the Middle East will go on and expand until it becomes international and some of the countries involved will end up using weapons of mass destruction, unfortunately, this is already prepared.

Meanwhile, as we destroy each other like mad using all we have in our hands, like it has always happened in our recent history but this time with war powers and means that exceed our poor intelligence (like a bunch of chimpanzees with machine guns would do, because this is what we look like fighting each other like animals, using all these terrible intelligent weapons, we look exactly like angry chimpanzees):

1 - Solar storms will go on and hit us for the following 30 years at least, so up to the year 2042. This solar activity will exacerbate people’s already bad side psychology in existence, and will push even farther the levels of violence as one thing is going to nurture the other, i.e., social problems will bring violence and violence will bring more social problems.

2 – A massive planet, much bigger than the earth, will cause the poles of our planet to shift. It has been known by NASA and other powers for decades already, it is a well known fact for the elites of the world, that is why they are so well prepared themselves. Large scale earthquakes will literally sweep whole regions of our planet and millions of people will perish on these massive tremors and mammoth tsunamis.

3 – The use of extreme weapons and massive earthquakes will bring severe weather changes that will change our ways of life, food is going to get difficult to get.

No…., of course we don’t like this… :( Who will? Nobody will! Nevertheless, getting to know what is going to happen makes a difference and gives you the opportunity to, at least, recognize that our civilization has failed and think about it for the possibility of a real change, facing up a new world of values and understanding, hopefully better that this one in which we are right now which is a pretty much unhappy world. Don’t forget that we belong to the mere 8% of people that can live and enjoy their lives pretty much normally, all the rest is suffering under conditions of poverty or even misery, while corporations rape them hard like it is happening in Africa with diamonds and Coltan, which is causing a civil war and divisions between themselves as well as outrageous exploitation of workers of all ages, while we comfortably use our smart phones to talk about the weather or the last machine created to pull out the hair of your nose... Africa has been used secretly also to try out "new medicines" so "you" don’t have the risk of getting bad, and so forth and so forth, is this being a human being?

Sure…, we will not like it…

We have now the change to reflect and understand that our values are wrong: degeneration, violence, hatred, wrong competition, extortion, abuse of power, legal robbery, materialism, pedophilia, every sort of blackmail, overtime factory exploitation of workers worldwide, human rights scams, speculation with people's money, false information, underpayment of wages of workers without the need, violence and crime steadily increasing worldwide, extreme cruelty between us and super-mega-extreme-cruelty with animals, overexploitation of nature, lies and more and more lies to the masses from multinationals and political powers, bad use of science, bad use of medicine, bad use of drugs, bad use of everything… how on hell can we expect for this world not to explode in our hands?

As a civilization, we have failed. We have achieved wonderful things materially, undeniable, but we have used them in the wrong way, undeniable too. We have reached an amazing level of development externally, but keep being chimpanzees with machineguns within ourselves, at least, regarding the way in which we treat each other. Mistakes are impossible not to make, but our civilization does no longer make mistakes, it is under a repeated pattern of bad ways, it has become a mistake in itself. That's why it is impossible for it to function any longer like this. Naturally, this is over!

It is time for us to be a little more humble facing up life and its mystery, humble facing up the gift of life, humble facing up others human beings, humble facing up plants, animals, nature, air, and stop our overexploitation of resources, stop wars, stop the race for the “status” of the stronger more important and richest man of the world and stop bad education based only in the search for money. We should all live together and respect every nation and base ourselves in sustainable ways. Yeah, all these “should” are worth nothing I know, we will not do the needed changes! Anyway, if we do not become humble ourselves and understand that this pattern of life is NOT a good one, if we do not understand that what we are doing is wrong and that we have to stop this madness, nature will take care of humbling us by force and this is what is happening.

When a father sees that his son has become an stupid irreverent spoiled child, to straighten it for his own good, it has no choice but to give him a good slap in the face, that's exactly what's about to happen.
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relax man, you're talking childish nonsense.

Btw, slapping a child in the face...is that normal to you?
In a lot of countries you'd be sued for that.
Talking about violence, haha:
Nestor wrote: We have now the change to reflect and understand that our values are wrong: degeneration, violence, (...)

(...) When a father sees that his son has become an stupid irreverent spoiled child, to straighten it for his own good, it has no choice but to give him a good slap in the face, ...
So, slapping a child in the face?
You must be sick.

Btw, 'degeneration' or 'violence' are no values...
It's all blabla what you chain together.

check this (quite Aryan...) picture from you, hope it brings you down to earth.
Don't think of slapping a child like this in the face tho.
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This is all the more reason for the legalization of Hallucineogenics and Narcotics.
I figure when your times' up....it's up, so go out with a smile and a fine babe on top.
No need for all of this agony and suffering awaiting the "End Of Days."
Get some 4 way window payne, and use a piece in each eye. Then you'll feel the slight burn for a few minutes, and after that........Valhalla, Heaven the Firmament and tracers, visions, short chats with God, etc.
Everytime a CME comes our way, I'll take a hit.
Better yet, imagine being able to skate on the reflective Ice up in Alaska during the Northern Lights while trippin' and shit. Day-Amn
I say bring it on.... :)
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I know that halve of what you just said is just for fun, that’s cool and I know that. Nevertheless, giving up taking drugs? We can change the world if we want to, this is the point I’m making. The acceptance of a bad fate with crossed arms is not a positive view. This is not an idea I would like to support. I really mean that we can do something good for this world, but the first step is by force being more conscious of what is going on and having the will to change it. Making an apology of degradation will not help, I will face it and do what is needed to be done for myself and for as many people as possible, but I will not give up, and least of all get into drugs or something like that, because all of these things are (including drugs) part of the causes of what we are suffering today.
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A good slap in the face of a child is one of your methods to get a better world?

Face it Nestor, no one wants your doom shit and childish fantasies anymore.
We live in a free world, so go on with your messiah messages, but you can't keep on believing anyone is interested or agrees to your spamming nonsense.
Get back to music making , that's your (good) home.

Oh by the way, a polar shift takes about 1000 à 10,000 years to complete...so what are you talking about? 'The next 30 years' you said? :o

It also has been proven from geological research that a polar shift doesn't do anything related to the catastrophes you mention (no expanded vulcanisme, no earthquakes and tsunamis, no plant or animal extinctions, etc.
Bacteria, wales, birds and other animals possibly using the Earth magnetic field to navigate may suffer from the shift, but what that means related to the timescale of the shift is rather questionable.
You just pick up from the internet what the Messiah in you needs I guess.

You like to play the role of the Messiah, probably to exorcise (experienced) existential fears, maybe even combined with an identity seeking midlife crisis, who knows.
Yet you have to realize: a Messiah needs a doom prophecy, ánd some followers.
The doom prophecy you obviously make up by yourself, see above.
Finding followers is a different thing tho.
I guess you're on the wrong forum then.
Even two times of 10 days of no responds on your dramaturgical 'calls' can't convince you that you don't have one single follower.
That's meager after more than a year now...
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hubird wrote: Oh by the way, a polar shift takes about 1000 à 10,000 years to complete...so what are you talking about?
It also has been proven from geological research that a polar shift doesn't do anything related to the catastrophes you mention.
Wales, birds and other animals possibly using the Earth magnetic field to navigate may suffer from the shift, but what that means related to the timescale of it is rather questionable.
Evolution not always needs so much time to adept to natural changes.


I do feel sorry for the creatures that are reliant on the Earths Magnetic Poles to navigate.
We have dozens of lost hookers strolling into neighborhoods thinking that their instincts to lead them to the Conventions on the Strip were spot on as usual...

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well, if it's about babes, then you are the iron, and the boobs are the field. Or? :P

Conventions of the Strip(tease?)? Hm... :-?

Quite different leaders eh, those two.
Imagine scum SDK was your president... :P
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It's no shock to see the highest levels of International Banking and Governing is run by such freaks. At least Berlisconi had good taste with Ruby the Heart Stealer.....wouldn't mind having my Dog walked by her.
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Berlusconi :-) or BerlusCony.
And indeed, the dog which walked by Ruby was him :D
Imagine he'd been your president :wink:
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We already have 2 Crime Families in DC, he would be welcome... :wink:
Actually we could save Billions by having Obama as a benevolent Dictator like Singapore, get rid of these mooches and start over.
This way the Crime Families in DC will have to get their children jobs on Wall Street instead of K Street.
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