Nails in the Coffin

[garyb]

which world? the real one or man's world?
both have the ability to disappear in the blink of an eye. no one can properly explain how or why either exists in the first place.

[dawman]

I think it is amazing that some Scientists actually think they can control Earths climate.
So lets assume they can. Who owns the corporate and industrial base of the free world..?
MY community rations water, and any levels that go above the prescribed amount pays more for their use.
We also have Solar Panels installed since 1995 because it was an investment, so instead of taxing people who already have been in the enviromental mind set, incentives to use our own money to contribute have succeeded for the last 15 years here. We didn't need people being chauffered in Limousines and flying Private Jets to tell us about this, we have been doing this for years w/o thier divine help.
We also rock our yards in my community and for every 4 dollars per square meter we use the county kicks in a dollar. On the Solar panels its 1.50 for 15 dollars invested.
Thats how you get people to participate.
I also use a cloth duffle bag for groceries, and I ride a bike and take Public Transportation by buying a monthly pass for 55 bucks a month. That money helps fuel our gas operated Bus system.
So Uncle Sam and the UN can suck my ass. While they own and profit from these corporate interests and still fly Private Jets and use Limousines for their little trips, they should come to Nevada on a Thursday and see the streets filled with recycling materials, people on Busses ( which they would never lower themselves to use ).
And while I don't believe this nonsense about CO2 I believe in teaching conservation and perpetuating the enviroment and I practice what I preach.
I don't need to pay taxes to control the Earths Climate.......

[siriusbliss]

i guess the real question is when will the world start coming to an end?if it hassent already. will this happen in our lifetime?

When the sun burns out in several million years.

G

[dawman]

Hey Braincell...
I know you are really into pictures and graphs.
I decided to show you my rocked front yard, my Bus Pass, and my Bike as I just returned from a ride to the store, and also my miniature gas saving vehicle which actually can transport my rig to any job I do.
I am not climbing up on my roof, and I am sure GaryB can verify this is my House as he has stayed here before.
Show me a jpeg of your contributions and how you are trying to pitch in, or better yet, just confirm my suspicions and post that cute little graph you use over and over.....
And please be aware or the copyright infringements when you post someone else ideas again...........

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[garyb]

wow! that's fun!
here's a spy photo of my house(marked with red). the solar panels look white/silver and my car is dark grey. it can run on petroleum or used cooking oil..

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[siriusbliss]

I haven't watered or mowed my lawn in 8 years. Does that count?
I don't even own a lawnmower and have been thinking about getting a Llama to graze in the front yard (but I don't think the city would like that too much).
The birds and animals are really happy now that I have a field of wild wheat, herbs, weeds, and grasses in my front yard since all the rains.
The rest of the year it's all dirt.

G

[netguyjoel]

I live in an ICF home (insulated concrete form) and all brick house. My walls are 15 inches thick!
In the dead of winter, here in Wisconsin...my highest heating bill (natural gas & electric combined) is $400 for a house that is over 7,000 sq ft.
I implemented dual stage, dual zone, forced air HVAC system with an HRV (hear recovery ventilator) to re-gather the heated or cooled air to pre-treat the cold or hot air from the outside to recycle the energy I have spent money on, either heating or cooling.
In the summer, my bill drops to $120 a month...due to thermal mass...the concrete just stays cool...I have hundreds of construction photos if you would like to see the construction method I used....
That is my contribution....

[siriusbliss]

I live in an ICF home (insulated concrete form) and all brick house. My walls are 15 inches thick!
In the dead of winter, here in Wisconsin...my highest heating bill (natural gas & electric combined) is $400 for a house that is over 7,000 sq ft.
I implemented dual stage, dual zone, forced air HVAC system with an HRV (hear recovery ventilator) to re-gather the heated or cooled air to pre-treat the cold or hot air from the outside to recycle the energy I have spent money on, either heating or cooling.
In the summer, my bill drops to $120 a month...due to thermal mass...the concrete just stays cool...I have hundreds of construction photos if you would like to see the construction method I used....
That is my contribution....

Yup, good on ya, mate...

I think I told you a while back that I'm designing a subterranean dome (shot-crete shell) that will need very little grid energy.
http://www.monolithic.com/

The studio will be it's own studio with surround and other configurations for 3D audio work.

while the scientists and government lies...

[netguyjoel]

Here is one...

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[wayne]

miniature gas saving vehicle

Hell Jim, how do you fit in that car with yer 10-gallon hat & spurs & gunbelt? Ya do wear those in the U.S., right?

I would believe it if i listened to remote philosophers who poke with the longest of sticks

[Cochise]

Hello!
Back here since about 14 months and I can see this is still going on. Feel almost like coming back home...



At now, from a kinky point of view, I'm gonna try to consider a paradox involved in the climate changes thing:

conservatives usually behave in such a way that favours changes
progressists are absolutely against such kind of changes


A different interpretation of the facet, an almost plain one, could be:
conservative always use to deny changes and progressists always use to consider changes


...confused...

[dawman]

Here's a couple more copyrighted jpegs for you.
I called my Homeys up in San Farncisco and told
them I was going to make them a star at the world
infamous PlanetZ, so they gave me permission to use them.

Hell Jim, how do you fit in that car with yer 10-gallon hat & spurs & gunbelt?
Ya do wear those in the U.S., right?

Wassup Wayne....
I actually put the 16U in the back and the KS88 is my passenger
with the long neck.....
I can't fit an Elk across the roof of this little 35mpg'r, but I have a
half of a freezer of Meat still from a year ago...I keep a Bauer 25 caliber
duct taped in plastic underneath the car.
Cops are too lazy to get on their knees and look underneath.
I would rather pay the fine of getting caught with a loaded handgun,
than the consequence of not having one..
And Joel my Brotha'.................what on Earth are you building
with all of that number 10 Rebar...??
ICF is a great standard. Actually the Germans have excellent wall forms too.
I supervised the Structural Steel crews at the Pelli Tower at City Center
and know my Steel.
I asked for Doka forms from Germany and USA made EFCO Gang Forms.
I scheduled the Crane Times and was like a musical conductor.
We poured an entire Floor every 5 days bcause of the designs we implemented.
Bought my Solaris new A16U and the XITE-1 from the first 6 weeks of work.
It's going to be a long time before I do another tower as the company went
to San Francisco and Dubai. No towers in Vegas for years Im afraid.
10 Billion for the job below we did that recently opened.
They laid off another 1000 people last week and closed the Elvis Show........
Oh and Cochise....good to see ya...


THE IPCC IS An ELITE GROUP OF LIARS WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO USE A FIREWALL,..
Other than that they are extremely intelligent
and have IQ's of 150.........

[Zer]

http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homicides/map

[David]

From the projections forcast in Zers post I see that 2003 was a good year for the environment and this effect must surely be aggregate. It strikes me as by far the simplest implementation of environmentaly friendly ethics but I gotta question decomposition emissions vs consumption emissions. Consumption emissions are spread over a lifetime whereas decomposition emissions occur just once and the effect on the environment is relatively immediate. It is at this point I wonder if nature could sustain such an immediate release of emissions if it were on a global and epic scale?

[Zer]

emissions and the emission rights are an excellent business. Nothing more nothing less. Things will oly change if they went totally wrong.

[Me$$iah]

It has been noted that the rise in tempreture from the late 18th early and 19th century has been linked to the decline in pirates, this is interesting. It seems to follow this pattern as the temp seems to have peaked in the late ninties and is now again on the decline, whilst at the same time there is an increase in pirates (from Somalia area).

Maybe I can knock up a graph for it.




BC, the big question I wanna ask you is this;
Is recycling paper a good thing?

If yes --- Why?
If no --- Why am I told to?

please answer this ...... I genuinely wanna know what you think on this.

[FrancisHarmany]

If yes --- Why?
If no --- Why am I told to?

1) Yes. But better would be to use hemp for this.
2) To see if you will listen. And since you do, get ready for extra taxes.

[garyb]

the funny thing about recycling here in the good ole' USA, is that the trash service, which is paid via fees by the city, charges twice to pick up trash. first they get a fee to pick up the trash, which is fine and great, and then, THEY SORT THROUGH EVERY SPECK OF TRASH AND SET ASIDE, FOR RECYCLING, EVERYTHING RECYCLABLE, NEARLY 100%.

here's where it gets funny. secondly, the trash companies charge another fee to pick up recyclables, which must be in a seperate bin, which is another fee, and then those items are recycled, meaning that trash collecting is very good business, if you like running rackets. the beautiful thing in this second scenario, is that unlike the first where they must pay people to dig through some nasty stuff, to make additional profits from sellable stuff, they get people to clean and presort the profitable material while collecting a fee from the ones that they are "servicing"! they get paid to pick up trash, then for the value of recycled matter, then for picking up pre-sorted recyclable matter, then for THAT recyclable matter, then for the bins.

so, messiah, that's why you're encouraged to recycle. no, you don't need to, the system already does. the folks who do the business thought about it long before you did. if the materials used are stupid, it wasn't your idea. obviously, if the materials are stupid choices, the manufacturer of the product is to blame. since he uses heavily capitalized mass-media hypnosis to sell his dumb stuff, he must be a part of the power structure in order to participate, as all clubs have rules about participation. once you become aware of stupidity an waste, naturally, it'd be good to begin to be more responsible. it's not that hard to be less wasteful. luckily, there is plenty, even if it is kept away from most people.

and now, to bring the thread back on topic, the reason we are talking about this stuff is because of the discovery of emails that have been vetted as real by the authors themselves which show that the global warming theories used by the IPCC and every major corporation and government on this earth for ideas involving "greening" were based on data which was FAKED to match the theories and that theperpetrators of the farce engaged in a witch hunt against those scientists who dared to question the fake data.

[braincell]

the discovery of emails that have been vetted as real by the authors themselves which show that the global warming theories used by the IPCC and every major corporation and government on this earth for ideas involving "greening" were based on data which was FAKED to match the theories and that theperpetrators of the farce engaged in a witch hunt against those scientists who dared to question the fake data.

That is a lie. It certainly doesn't prove that. You are making a gigantic, gross generalization because you won't accept reality. You would make a horrible lawyer.

[FrancisHarmany]

the discovery of emails that have been vetted as real by the authors themselves which show that the global warming theories used by the IPCC and every major corporation and government on this earth for ideas involving "greening" were based on data which was FAKED to match the theories and that theperpetrators of the farce engaged in a witch hunt against those scientists who dared to question the fake data.

That is a lie. It certainly doesn't prove that. You are making a gigantic, gross generalization because you won't accept reality. You would make a horrible lawyer.

Reality being whatever BC believes it is! Preach on boy.