Nails in the Coffin

[braincell]

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[garyb]

as i said, there are plenty of graphs to repeat.

none of this changes the FACT that the compilers of the data that the IPCC used to proclaim a global warming crisis were caught FAKING that data.

oh, and by the way, i used the img tags for these graphs, so each posting won't take extra storage space on the server, unlike....

[braincell]

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[Mr Arkadin]

oh, and by the way, i used the img tags for these graphs, so each posting won't take extra storage space on the server, unlike....

He's so predictable he replied immediately. He can't help himself in his recursive loop. Reboot!

[garyb]

he doesn't even know what he's arguing anymore!

if he did, he'd say "my bad" and give it up, but right now, the truth doesn't matter to him anymore. he only cares about winning/trolling. since there's nothing to win, since FACTS are against him(the compilers of the data that prooved warming have been caught making up numbers and redhanded, as you know), rational replies are impossible.

i really like my little graphs. they're easily as real as his and since they show a different time frame, they really show what a meaningless crock his graph is. you'll notice that different graphs put zero in different, arbitrary places. thenewsweek graph puts zero at about the average temperature in 1880, but otherwise it shows the same dips and rises as bc's and the 500 year graph i posted. what a different story is told by a 500 year view. i wonder what suv or electronic gear triggered the tremendous heat wave 400 years ago,or even 125,000 years ago. oh wait, if you look across 400,000 years, definite patterns emerge! hey! it's been really hot and really cold many, many times! what? there was NEVER a "stable climate"? this universe is REALLY big and the planet, while tiny, is HUUUGE compared to the miniscule humans upon it. it's going to be quite a ride in any case! hold on tight!

i also really like that newsweek article. i remember reading that when it came out and being very concerned. naturally, it was baloney, just like the current crisis is(farmland isn't frozen over and the world makes more than enough food, even if most of it gets thrown away, and even if there are many who can't get it because of polytricks). little children don't know anything about the past and so they are easily led astray by lies in the present.

[Stevil]

I remember being told in school that many years ago the Sahara desert used to be a jungle, so the idea of "climate changing" never seemed all that surprising to me. Clean air & water seems like a good idea for our own comfort as a species, but the rest of this apocalyptic agenda pushing nonsense seems a bit alarmist to me & is a distraction from fixable pollution. Things like excessive farm feces runoff in the fishing water & oil spills on the beaches.

[valis]

When I was in school they had a rather good argument that the Sahara was assisted in its expansion from overfarming, not sure the historical accuracy of that myself but I'm sure a really good spin doctor could add greenhouse gases from Oxen, horses (transportation) and whatever cattle they used at the time and make some taste FUD with that one...

[siriusbliss]

When I was in school they had a rather good argument that the Sahara was assisted in its expansion from overfarming, not sure the historical accuracy of that myself but I'm sure a really good spin doctor could add greenhouse gases from Oxen, horses (transportation) and whatever cattle they used at the time and make some taste FUD with that one...

Romans cutting down trees to build ships?

G

[skwawks]

goats?

[Stevil]

goats?

feeding the Egyptian pyramid builder slave labor work force?

[dawman]

As we speak members of Congress have Geniologists re tracing the family tree of a certain tribe of Neandrathals who inhabited the coastal areas of modern day Tunisia.
Since they used fires 24 a hours a day and burned large swaths of Sub Sahran Grasslands to trap their prey, Congress will back charge thier family tree using new forensic DNA methods.
This form of Cap & Trade will actually be acceptable to most Americans since those Neandrathals now inhabit France and the Basque area of Portugal.
It's definately their fault that the Sahara turned to Desert so these funds will be re allocated to the Libyans and Egyptians, but there is an injunction to divert those funds to the living relatives of the Jewish slaves who built the Pyramids.
So Cap & Trade will be implemented much sooner than we thought.

[valis]

That's the spirit!

In other news, politicians today sadly announced that those responsible for the extinction of the Dodo are now off the hook as there's a specimen from that species apparently alive & well on a little-known website forum only of interest to a few people who still refuse to 'come into the software future' and realize that hardware is extinct too.

[wayne]

Meanwhile, record rain across the Australian desert - it actually rained there two years in a row! Australia's lowest point, Lake Eyre (normally a salt pan) is likely to refill again. Very exciting. Wildlife will be tripping over each other.

Here in Perth, still no rain since November 20, a record dry.

Quite OT, nothing to be inferred here, but interesting weather news )

[skwawks]

It's a beautiful place around Alice and the west mcdonald ranges . Have you ever been out there or worked around there Wayne . I first went when I was playing with Mossy. We went up to Darwin and then to Alice and I made sure to go back with Kerry once for a week or so . He reckoned there were times ( he's an Alice boy) that all you wanted to do was see a cloud in the sky . I dont think that inland sea idea was so barmy what with the salt plains and stuff . Yet more evidence that things change big time . Are they getting any rain down south . Albany is a pretty place too isn't it ........nice people as well I thought
Paul

[braincell]

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[siriusbliss]

[garyb]

ok, cut n paste.
i don't do this for bc's sake, btw(anyone who cares). i do it for clarity's sake. no one need read all the posts in this thread. there is the subject in the beginning and any honest person can make a reasonable conclusion from that, and there's whatever the last page that the stupid graphs are on and that pretty much sums it all up. my graphs are as useless as bc's as far as anyone being able to do anything about anything from looking at them, but at least mine tell the rest of the story, for those who get just a little too frightened.










as i said, there are plenty of graphs to repeat.

none of this changes the FACT that the compilers of the data that the IPCC used to proclaim a global warming crisis were caught FAKING that data.

oh, and by the way, i used the img tags for these graphs, so each posting won't take extra storage space on the server, unlike....

[garyb]

Greg, if that photo is for bc, i don't think he's gonna be able to figure out just what it all means....your taxes at work....

[siriusbliss]

Greg, if that photo is for bc, i don't think he's gonna be able to figure out just what it all means....your taxes at work....

yup, it's a real photo of a real NASA climate sensor site.

G

[garyb]

there's more than one way to cook data...