xtc mode without bying update??

[the19thbear]

i just donwloaded the 4.0 software, i never bought any updates and i have just been using the free updates.. started with a powersamnpler card and the software that came along with it, back in the day..

my question is:
do you need to buy the 4.5 update in order for xtc mode to work?

as i said, i just downloaded the 4.0 free update, and the "installer" program didnt even make a "xtc plugins" folder in my vst plugins folder..

i can launch cubase in xtc mode, but no xtc logo appears, and when i go to the device driver menu in cubase and want to configure the in & outs, there are no options.
the little " xtc window appears and i can click my source and destinations on/off, but i cant choose anything in the grey field, where you are supposed too...

well--
thanks

[garyb]

the installer works if you choose a location for the plugins on installation. you may need to run the i/o enabler(in the sfp or scope folder). to run xtc mode you must enable it in scope under set/ settings/ global and then CLOSE scope. next, open your asio enabled sequencer. you may want to edit your xtcproject.pro located in scope/app/xtcapp. there's lots of info on setting up xtc in this forum.

[the19thbear]

i have choosen a place for it to install the plugins.. i chose the vst plugins folder, that contains all of my other vst plugins.. but , no cigar..
i havent ried the plugins enabler though! thanks..
i have also activated th "xtc mode"
but i´ll try again and maybe choose another folder for the vst plugins and se what happens..

[the19thbear]

well now i got xtc mode working, but it still doesnt make an xtc plugins folder in my vst folder, i havent bought any of the plugins, but i cant even get free xtc plguins working! cubase simply wont recognise them!

[the19thbear]

i got xtc mode working now, and i have sound, but the installer still doesnt make a xtc plugins folder in my vst plugins folder, even if i tell it to in the installer..( when it asks me where to put its xtc plugins, i write d:vstplugins) i tried copying all the files manually, and making a xtc plguins folder in my vst plugins folder. The only thing cubase recognised was something called vz recorder, or something like that, i tried to load it as an effect in cubase, but then something pops up and says, " sampler not found".
i allso tried copying a synth to the xtc folder that i made. ( a free scope synth called d-tune.dll)
and it didnt even show up in the plugins.. i tried to go to plugin in information in cubase, and looked trhough the list of plugins.. all of the scope plugins that i copied manually, failed to load, including the free synth "d-tune". I can understand why the plugins that come with scope 4.0 wont work, since i never paid for them, and dont have any activation codes, but the free devices should work!!

well

thanks again!

[Bifop]

I think it's normal that you don't get an xtc plugin folder on install since you don't have the key for the scope platform software (do you ?).
Do you have a file called "xtc.ini" in your xtc vst folder ? If not, you should create one based on this one :

[SCOPE]
Application=C:/Scope_4_5/App/XTCApp/XTC.pro
Bin=C:/Scope_4_5/App/Bin (*note)
Config=XTC-Config

(*note) : this is the path to your scope installation modify to suit yours.

You'll need a few lines in your "cset.ini" file as well (under ScopeAppBin) :

[SEQPATH]
Path1=C:/Program Files/Steinberg/Vstplugins (*note)

[ASIO]
XTCMode=1
application=C:/Scope_4_5/App/XTCApp/XTC.pro
Pluginwrapper1=C:/Scope_4_5/App/XTCApp/vstsynthplugin.mdl
Pluginwrapper2=C:/Scope_4_5/App/XTCApp/vstplugin.mdl
Pluginwrapper3=C:/Scope_4_5/App/XTCApp/vstplugin.mdl
Pluginwrapper4=C:/Scope_4_5/App/XTCApp/vsthostplugin.mdl
Modular=C:/Scope/Modular2 Modules/

[XTC-Config]
DirectPlayOutPad2=RIn
DirectPlayOutPad1=LIn
DirectPlayOut=Pulsar2 Analog Dest
AddHost=1
intBlkSize=256


(note*): this is the path to your vst plugin folder. Modify to suit yours.



You need to be sure you copied all the devices you want in xtc mode into the scope's "devicesXTC" folder and that you did the dll trick (copying an already wrapped pulsar vst plugin and renaming it to the needed one..).

Read Gonzo's FAQ here on PlanetZ.

Good luck.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Bifop on 2006-01-09 10:33 ]</font>

[the19thbear]

i´ll try it out! thanks!.. but there is one problem though... there is no folder called
"devicesXTC" in my scope folder!!.. maybe i just need to buy the update, because, then´, the installer will make a xtc folder in my vst and probably also the "devicesXTC" folder you where talking about.. but i´ll give it a try, without working with the "devicesXTC" folder.
THANKS!

[the19thbear]

it works it works!!!!! THANKS!!!! xtc moe works now! at least some of the synths!
i´m having problems getting the fx to work though.. i followed gonzo´s tips/tricks, and copied a vst fx into my vst-xtc plugin folder, and renamed it to match my fx in my scope fx folder.. but then i try to open it in cubase, and the file is located in my xtc folder and has the right name, but when i open it, it turns out that it´s exactly the same fx that it was before i renamed it ( a normal vst fx-plugin), and that it loads on my cpu instead of the dsp´s
but i have hope now... THANKS TO EVERYONE!!

[MD69]

Hi,

You won't be able to run native vst fx on XTC (Scope DSP)!
Renaming trick is used for non XTC enabled SFP devices (like 3 party devices).

As an exemple: There is Dcomp as free compressor which can be added to XTC by renaming an FX dll to dcomp.dll (and not the synth dll). You will have to copy Dcomp.dev under SFP/deviceXTC/Effects/stereo/dynamic folder also.

Cheers

Michel

[the19thbear]

thats what i´m talking about.. i never tried to run vst plugins on my scope board.. i think i just didnt really express myself the right way.. ( ok, im danish! not a native english speaker)

but , i tried copying a vst fx dll and renaming it, nut i guess i´ll just have to try again, especially with the d-comp m.

thanks!